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Sep 30, 2015 10:08:57   #
matt thomas
 
Jerry c41...
If you are doing research this aggravation is understandable. Otherwise it is a waste of time because windows 10 is a lousy product and only typical of the the inept Microsoft organization which had really deserved to have gone out-of-business years ago.

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Sep 30, 2015 10:44:51   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
matt thomas wrote:
Jerry c41...
If you are doing research this aggravation is understandable. Otherwise it is a waste of time because windows 10 is a lousy product and only typical of the the inept Microsoft organization which had really deserved to have gone out-of-business years ago.


Actually I find Win 10 quite satisfactory, what are you running?

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Sep 30, 2015 10:56:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Actually I find Win 10 quite satisfactory, what are you running?

I have Win8.1 on this machine. I used a flash drive to get Win10 installed on my older Win7 machine.

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Sep 30, 2015 11:01:45   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have Win8.1 on this machine. I used a flash drive to get Win10 installed on my older Win7 machine.


An old Win 7 was the one that gave me a problem.

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Sep 30, 2015 12:05:22   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Forget it Jerry. Nothing, even Windows 10 is worth this much hassle. I can't see enough of an advantage upgrading to Win10 from 7 or 8. Next time you buy a new machine or install a new hard drive and do a fresh install do it then.. I know. I feel you when it comes to a challenge but life is too short to spend hours and hours figuring out why the computer isn't working right.
jerryc41 wrote:
In my ongoing saga of trying to install Windows 10, the latest advice form the MSDD tech is to make a Linux boot disc and boot from them. then I would delete the offending files in the EFI partition. I have to download Rufus, which took just seconds. Then I have to download Peppermint5. It looks like that will take over two hours. Nothing has ever taken that long to download, but that seems to be the way to make a Linux boot disc.

I tried making a bootable flash drive using Paragon, which is supposed to be good at deleting hard-to-get-at files, but the computer does not want to boot from the flash drive (Win8.1).

Any comments on making a Linux boot flash drive?

Peppermint is 713 MB. Pretty big.
In my ongoing saga of trying to install Windows 10... (show quote)

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Sep 30, 2015 12:13:54   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Forget it Jerry. Nothing, even Windows 10 is worth this much hassle. I can't see enough of an advantage upgrading to Win10 from 7 or 8. Next time you buy a new machine or install a new hard drive and do a fresh install do it then.. I know. I feel you when it comes to a challenge but life is too short to spend hours and hours figuring out why the computer isn't working right.


Well , the price of Win 10 has not been disclosed, as far as I know, it's free now for upgrade, next year $$$?

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Sep 30, 2015 15:58:00   #
jrh1354 Loc: Dayton, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I hate to buy these things because after spending the money, they don't solve the problem. Going back several days, I could have paid $40 for a program, but I found a free alternative. That didn't work, either. I've been working with this MS tech for 11 days, and we're up to five pages of messages now. When he suggested Linux, I think that was a desperation move.

The problem is that I have backup folders in an EFI partition, although there's no logical way they could have gotten there. Apparently, this happens occasionally. I finally managed to access the partition and give it a letter name, but since Windows is protecting it, I have to get another program to delete those files. In order to do that, I have to boot from a flash drive using a program called Partition Assistant. I cannot boot from the flash drive.
I hate to buy these things because after spending ... (show quote)

Jerry, have you been elevated to Level II or Level III support? It's been my experience that MS Level I techs will not elevate your problem until they finally admit they cannot help you. And that seldom happens. Good luck - JRH

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Sep 30, 2015 17:10:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jrh1354 wrote:
Jerry, have you been elevated to Level II or Level III support? It's been my experience that MS Level I techs will not elevate your problem until they finally admit they cannot help you. And that seldom happens. Good luck - JRH

This is online - answers.microsoft---

I've decided to wait till I need/want a new computer and get Win10 that way.

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Sep 30, 2015 17:19:59   #
BatManPete Loc: Way Up North!
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is online - answers.microsoft---

I've decided to wait till I need/want a new computer and get Win10 that way.


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Jer--- go to komando.com..... then to end of screen/page....click send eMail..... etc.... write a note ..... include the link to this file.... Kim will think of something... been into computers since she was in High School.....

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Sep 30, 2015 17:30:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BatManPete wrote:
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Jer--- go to komando.com..... then to end of screen/page....click send eMail..... etc.... write a note ..... include the link to this file.... Kim will think of something... been into computers since she was in High School.....

Thanks. That's a possibility.

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Sep 30, 2015 20:46:19   #
matt thomas
 
Windows 7 but the best was XP which my wife is still happy with.

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Oct 1, 2015 10:00:40   #
HLS45 Loc: Fairmont, WV
 
If you are running Win 8.1 or 10, they both are UEFI based BIOS's. To boot from a CD or from a USB disk, you have to make two changes to your BIOS. This is for booting to LINUX. I have not tried this with a Windows OS on USB. Put your CD/DVD in the tray and close it, then boot the computer and access the BIOS while booting. When the BIOS screen comes up navigate to the Secure Boot option and disable it, hit F10 to save and reboot, accessing the BIOS again. This time go to the Boot Sequence option and you will see your CD/DVD or USB drive and you can make it the first bootable option. Again hit F10 to save and exit and then the computer will boot to the CD. When you are all finished and ready to boot to Windows again, you will have to re-access the BIOS and revert the changes you made; enable Secure Boot, re-boot and set Windows as the first bootable option if it isn't already.

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Oct 2, 2015 15:45:35   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
Any possibility (from a non computer guy here, so forgive me) to copy all programs and files to another hard drive, format the internal HD, then do a clean install, and put everything back? The issue of reloading software is what is stopping me from upgrading. Never did an upgrade that worked except for a clean install. I don't have all my old serial numbers (were in a binder that got misplaced in a move) That's the main thing stopping me from jumping into this circus. That, and reading all the headaches people like my old friend Jerry are going through.

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Oct 2, 2015 20:02:22   #
decoonass Loc: San Antonio
 
Linux is an ISO file. You have to burn it to CD as an ISO Image.
This link will get you there.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/download/disc-burning/active-iso-burner-30-3249690/

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Oct 3, 2015 08:37:40   #
HLS45 Loc: Fairmont, WV
 
You can copy all your files to another drive and then put them back on your new system. Unfortunately, you cannot do that with your programs. You will have to re-install them. If you don't have the validation numbers and can't get them, you will have to purchase new ones.

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