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Sep 12, 2015 11:49:57   #
MiroFoto
 
Enclosed are my pics. first w/o ADL , second is with ADL at its max.

Does anybody see a difference? (except the second pic is overall lighter.) Do I do anything wrong? I got interested after a report that some people keep it on all the time.
Thank you for your response...or enclose your w/o & w ADL shots. Thank you

M





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Sep 12, 2015 11:52:31   #
MiroFoto
 
Maybe I expect too much.....

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Sep 12, 2015 12:03:05   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
MiroFoto wrote:
Enclosed are my pics. first w/o ADL , second is with ADL at its max.

Does anybody see a difference? (except the second pic is overall lighter.) Do I do anything wrong? I got interested after a report that some people keep it on all the time.
Thank you for your response...or enclose your w/o & w ADL shots. Thank you

M


I see a lot more detail inside the cabinet.
What exactly were you expecting?

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Sep 12, 2015 12:03:30   #
bicyclerepairman Loc: North Central Texas
 
I don't know what ADL is but yes I see much more detail in the darker areas in #2.

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Sep 12, 2015 12:04:14   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
MiroFoto wrote:
Maybe I expect too much.....


3 minutes between posts doesn't give people much time to respond.

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Sep 12, 2015 12:17:15   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Called DRO on my Sony, I keep it turned on and I love the results. It will affect only the jpeg, so my raw files are not affected - and I'm pretty sure the same is true for your Nikon.

Have you tried in-camera HDR? It's the same idea, but the camera takes several images at different exposures and combines then into a single jpeg. You can get much more range with it, even to the point of surrealism, depending on how you set it up. Downsides, though, are that you don't get a raw image and it ties up the camera for quite a while so it's useless for dynamic subjects which would blur anyway.

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Sep 12, 2015 13:03:25   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Per NikonUSA:
Active D-Lighting optimizes high contrast images to restore the shadow and highlight details that are often lost when strong lighting increases the contrast between bright and dark areas of an image. It can be set to operate automatically or manually, and it's also possible to bracket pictures to get one with Active D-Lighting and one without.

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Sep 12, 2015 15:24:12   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
MiroFoto wrote:
Enclosed are my pics. first w/o ADL , second is with ADL at its max.

Does anybody see a difference? (except the second pic is overall lighter.) Do I do anything wrong? I got interested after a report that some people keep it on all the time.
Thank you for your response...or enclose your w/o & w ADL shots. Thank you

M


I myself shoot raw on my D7100, so the ADL makes no difference, however it can confuse things because it effects the LCD image that the camera shows vs what the raw yields without any post processing. It took me awhile to realize that was happening at first and I ended up trying to adjust my exposure in camera. Once I realized what was going on, I turned ADL off, and eliminated the effect that the preview was getting.

ADL (Active D Lighting) can also slow down burst mode shooting in some cases, and for burst shooting I want the fastest I can get since the buffer is so small in a D7100 shooting raw.

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Sep 12, 2015 16:28:18   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Good point about the burst mode, Donald. ADL or DRO will limit the buffer and shooting, as as you say, but the mode makes no difference in the display on my Sony, even with its electronic viewfinder. Odd.

My Sony has a button on the back that pulls up a mini-menu of 10 user selectable, oft-used menu items to make it very quick & easy to change settings. Shooting mode is one of mine, so I can turn off DRO (or select HDR) in about a second (though it's worthless if I forget to turn it off for a burst!)

A few years ago I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a friend to take a picture of an antique car in a shady barn with strong sunlight streaming in. HUGE dynamic range there. I shot mine with DRO and he shot standard with his Canon. We immediately played "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" and he was amazed at the difference, the shadow details mine had that his didn't. This is a nice feature for jpegs, but not necessary for raw.

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Sep 12, 2015 17:23:57   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Good point about the burst mode, Donald. ADL or DRO will limit the buffer and shooting, as as you say, but the mode makes no difference in the display on my Sony, even with its electronic viewfinder. Odd.

My Sony has a button on the back that pulls up a mini-menu of 10 user selectable, oft-used menu items to make it very quick & easy to change settings. Shooting mode is one of mine, so I can turn off DRO (or select HDR) in about a second (though it's worthless if I forget to turn it off for a burst!)

A few years ago I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a friend to take a picture of an antique car in a shady barn with strong sunlight streaming in. HUGE dynamic range there. I shot mine with DRO and he shot standard with his Canon. We immediately played "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" and he was amazed at the difference, the shadow details mine had that his didn't. This is a nice feature for jpegs, but not necessary for raw.
Good point about the burst mode, Donald. ADL or DR... (show quote)


My comment regarding the LCD was during review of the picture since it displays a JPG from the raw and the ADL would lighten the JPG making me think that the exposure was off, so when the preview looked good the raws were way underexposed and caused much more post processing work needed.

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Sep 12, 2015 17:32:12   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
I do not use adl in camera but I do use it when processing my NEF files with viewnx2. There is a noticeably difference when used sparingly

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Sep 13, 2015 09:32:47   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
MiroFoto wrote:
Maybe I expect too much.....

jethro779 wrote:
3 minutes between posts doesn't give people much time to respond.

I don't think MiroFoto was referring to getting responses to the post but expecting too much from ADL.

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Sep 13, 2015 11:33:41   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
I don't think MiroFoto was referring to getting responses to the post but expecting too much from ADL.


That could be, I just saw he posted twice in 3 minutes.

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Sep 13, 2015 12:49:04   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
sinatraman wrote:
I do not use adl in camera but I do use it when processing my NEF files with viewnx2. There is a noticeably difference when used sparingly


You can also apply it to make a new JPEG using Retouch.

I leave it in auto so my LCD JPEG better reflects what my processed RAW file will look like. I apply a preset on import that lowers highlights and brightens shadows (100% to start) so the result is similar to ADL.

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Sep 13, 2015 15:40:36   #
MiroFoto
 
I am sorry to correct the post.
1. Some people say "I use ADL all the time" - is it a good experience?
2. The control pictures have shown MAX ADL difference. Is it in line of what is it about? OR, do I expect too much more.?

I understand the RAW is much better , I know about ADL retouche in camera (worse than PP of RAW) BUT I would like to learn how to shoot right w/o Post Processing.

HOWEVER < I got good answers leading me to understanding what and why you use ADL setup. Thank you Miro

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