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Nifty Fifty - can you recommend a good one? (Nikon)
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Sep 11, 2015 11:52:27   #
Buckeye Loc: Dayton, OH.
 
Jahawk wrote:
On your crop sensor camera you may want to look at the 35mm f1.8
which will give you close to 50mm. just a thought


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Sep 11, 2015 12:05:20   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
I fail to see why anyone need be concerned about crop factors to make the subject lens choice. Who cares?? Take your kit lens, take a few shots at 35,a few at 50 or whatever. Compare them and take your pick. If you need to take your focal length and consider your crop factor in order to tell what you prefer, so be it. As in the many prior "nifty fifty" threads, this one is redundant, worn out and probably many of the posters have not read the previous responses before answering. I do believe that the OP is all set, or he indicated he had a lot of great info.

I do apologize. :cry: :cry: :-) :-)

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Sep 11, 2015 12:14:42   #
Grandpa Pete Loc: Western Finger Lakes (NY)
 
SESchild wrote:
Hello all! You were so tremendously helpful in guiding me to buy my first kit to get started in DSLR photography. I've learned a lot and have been having a lot of fun doing it. So I thank you! I've heard such good things about nifty fifty lenses, and have seen such nice photos from them, I figure it's time to get one. Can anyone recommend a good one? I checked old posts and didn't see anything related, I apologize if I missed one. I have a Nikon D3200. I have 3 young kids, who are my subjects 90% of the time. The other 10%of my photos are landscape photos, just for fun. Thank you again for sharing your passion on UHH, and for helping amateurs like me!
Hello all! You were so tremendously helpful in gu... (show quote)

For a D3200 use the DX Nikon 35mm f1.8.

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Sep 11, 2015 12:17:41   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
selmslie wrote:
So I guess you suggested it.

The point is that the OP will decide what to buy based on all of the answers. There is no need for us to argue about it or try and sway the OP.

I said that if he has the budget, those are the best.

What I suggested as the lens to buy was the 24-120mm f/4 that sells new for $600.

So if there is no need, why are you just fomenting another argument that is useless? Read what people write for what they mean it to convey, not for how obnoxiously you can twist it.

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Sep 11, 2015 12:18:50   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :) :)

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Sep 11, 2015 12:19:12   #
New Days Loc: New England
 
I chose the Sigma 50 1.4 HSM for my D7100 a year ago and I am happy.

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Sep 11, 2015 13:16:04   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
jnoll wrote:
50 f1.8G Nikon


Personally, I prefer the 1.4 version, but, for the money, thi is a GREAT choice.

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Sep 11, 2015 14:21:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
("Sneaker zoom" is myth that doesn't provide results. It only gives the right framing, and not the right perspective.)

Actually, perspective is exactly what it provides. If you have "too much" in the picture, you can fix framing by cropping the final image. You cannot fix perspective by any form of PP, only by being at the right place when you take the picture originally.

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Sep 11, 2015 15:39:52   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
jnoll wrote:
50 f1.8G Nikon


I second that motion. I have the Same Nikon 50mm f/1.8G and love the picture quality.
Craig

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Sep 11, 2015 19:11:42   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
rehess wrote:
Actually, perspective is exactly what it provides. If you have "too much" in the picture, you can fix framing by cropping the final image. You cannot fix perspective by any form of PP, only by being at the right place when you take the picture originally.

The right perspective is not provided by using sneaker zoom.

The right way to sequence composing an image is to pick the desired perspective, which fixes the location, and only then should a lens focal length be chosen to get the desired framing.

If instead the location is chosen by moving until the image is famed by the already selected focal length, the resulting perspective has not been specifically chosen, it is an artifact of other decisions.

The right perspective is not a product of using sneaker zoom.

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Sep 11, 2015 20:52:37   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
The right perspective is not provided by using sneaker zoom. ...

It is commonly accepted that 40-50 mm (for full frame) is considered the "normal" perspective. Everything else is either wide angle or telephoto.

So what is the "right" perspective? How do you define that?

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Sep 11, 2015 21:30:42   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
The right perspective is not provided by using sneaker zoom.

The right way to sequence composing an image is to pick the desired perspective, which fixes the location, and only then should a lens focal length be chosen to get the desired framing.

If instead the location is chosen by moving until the image is famed by the already selected focal length, the resulting perspective has not been specifically chosen, it is an artifact of other decisions.

The right perspective is not a product of using sneaker zoom.
The right perspective is not provided by using sne... (show quote)
But picking an appropriate ( "right" ) location is a form of sneaker zoom. The alternative, which so many use today, is to pick some location, chosen perhaps more on convenience than upon anything else, and follow the action from that location, using zoom to frame the picture and implicitly accepting whatever perspective is provided.

added: Remember that we are largely talking about photographing children. When someone has a zoom lens, s/he tends to stay in one place and use whatever zoom is needed to frame the picture s/he sees, so the perspective is dictated by where the kids currently are. The alternative is to pick a lens, such as a 35mm, that provides the perspective wanted, and then use sneaker zoom to follow the kids around. Yes, using primes limits the perspectives available, but the commonly-available primes reflect perspectives that people have found to be most pleasing, and the photographer can choose the subset of the available lenses based on his/her preferences with respect to perspective. At the rate kids tend to move around, a person is not going to constantly dynamically evaluate perspective, which is why I believe the best choice is to choose an appropriate prime roughly corresponding to the desired perspective and go from there.

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Sep 11, 2015 23:20:41   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
I really like my 1.4. It's a little more money, but sure focuses fast.
Jack

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Sep 11, 2015 23:30:43   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
rehess wrote:
But picking an appropriate ( "right" ) location is a form of sneaker zoom.

Sneaker zoom is the act of framing by changing location while using a fixed focus lens.

Choosing a location to get the appropriate perspective unrelated to focal length is exactly the opposite.

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Sep 12, 2015 00:15:53   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Sneaker zoom is the act of framing by changing location while using a fixed focus lens.
I assume you meant "fixed focal length" not "fixed focus"

Apaflo wrote:
Choosing a location to get the appropriate perspective unrelated to focal length is exactly the opposite.
Focal length determines perspective, so appropriate perspective cannot be unrelated to focal length.

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