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Sep 10, 2015 10:52:16   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
They are working on them now, only to be released after Sony and Nikon release theirs about 2 years prior to Canon.


Funny!

But hay, hay, they were first to announce!!! ;-)

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Sep 10, 2015 10:53:57   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


There will be some resolution gains, but already resolution is limited to a great extent by lens quality.

They have also announced a 250 Mpx APS-H sensor...

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Sep 10, 2015 11:21:10   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I wouldn't want one at this time. If I purchased this body, I'd be forced to buy a new computer. I would probably have to get a Mac Pro with the fastest processors they make and the largest hard drives available. And I can't afford that! LOL

mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)

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Sep 10, 2015 11:29:06   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
kymarto wrote:
There will be some resolution gains, but already resolution is limited to a great extent by lens quality.

They have also announced a 250 Mpx APS-H sensor...


Well then Canon sure does make some very high quality L lenses I see them all the time at sporting events and few other venues. I am sold on them!

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Sep 10, 2015 11:30:02   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


That seems to happen a lot with Canon as well. While Nikon is very busy Canon is quiet. Is it competition or what? I don't know either.

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Sep 10, 2015 11:33:12   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


I think Canon might have a deal with the hard drive and memory manufacturers. I know disk space is relatively cheap but a 120 is almost silly.

How many people can really use that much data. I wonder how many of the 5D's and 50 mpx are selling such that there is a market for 120. They may want to spend more of their R&D funds on mirrorless than bigger boat anchors

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Sep 10, 2015 12:06:11   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
I wonder what effect diffraction limits will have on these higher megapixel sensors

The same as on any other sensor, that has nothing to do with the sensor, but the lenses you put before it!

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Sep 10, 2015 13:05:20   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
pithydoug wrote:
I think Canon might have a deal with the hard drive and memory manufacturers. I know disk space is relatively cheap but a 120 is almost silly.

How many people can really use that much data. I wonder how many of the 5D's and 50 mpx are selling such that there is a market for 120. They may want to spend more of their R&D funds on mirrorless than bigger boat anchors


It amazes me how megapixels are now irrelevant once the vaunted Nikon 36mp has bee far surpassed. Now there are dozens of other excuses like dynamic range, who needs it lenses cannot resolve or many others.
The Canon lenses will resolve the images just fine. Dynamic range is excellent and good enough. And for those wanting the ultimate in photos need it and CF cards and drives etc. will easily handle the data as the sensors come out. If a card can't handle it a competitor will make one that can and clean up.
I find it interesting when Canon announces something there are dozens of nay sayers but Sony announces something and it is as if God has spoken and needs to be written on stone tablets.
Actually it makes me laugh and is quite entertaining watching this.

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Sep 10, 2015 13:23:17   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I laugh as well, I have been a Canon user for more than 40 years and could not be more satisfied with this great company and it products.



Architect1776 wrote:
It amazes me how megapixels are now irrelevant once the vaunted Nikon 36mp has bee far surpassed. Now there are dozens of other excuses like dynamic range, who needs it lenses cannot resolve or many others.
The Canon lenses will resolve the images just fine. Dynamic range is excellent and good enough. And for those wanting the ultimate in photos need it and CF cards and drives etc. will easily handle the data as the sensors come out. If a card can't handle it a competitor will make one that can and clean up.
I find it interesting when Canon announces something there are dozens of nay sayers but Sony announces something and it is as if God has spoken and needs to be written on stone tablets.
Actually it makes me laugh and is quite entertaining watching this.
It amazes me how megapixels are now irrelevant onc... (show quote)

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Sep 10, 2015 13:58:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RichardSM wrote:
I laugh as well, I have been a Canon user for more than 40 years and could not be more satisfied with this great company and it products.


Me too, started in 75 while in South America. Had an instamatic and an Army buddy had an FTb. Well it didn't take much to convince me which was better.
I have never had a product fail over the years, I have had independent lenses fail regularly so as I can afford it I get Canon lenses.
Is Canon perfect? No. But they blew by Nikon with the EOS system and have never looked back. Nikon is still struggling with a legacy mount, though good is limiting and even AF lenses are not all compatable with all bodies. As I have said before it has been so long since the FD was made that if one is still pining for it they are one foot in the grave. Remember every EF lens fits and fully functions with all features on every EOS digital or film camera ever made. That is forward thinking. Nikon cannot even come close to that claim. PS I can use my FD lenses with an adapter (which I have) but why?

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Sep 10, 2015 14:02:35   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I to have done that as with a few FD lenses but not lately.


Architect1776 wrote:
Me too, started in 75 while in South America. Had an instamatic and an Army buddy had an FTb. Well it didn't take much to convince me which was better.
I have never had a product fail over the years, I have had independent lenses fail regularly so as I can afford it I get Canon lenses.
Is Canon perfect? No. But they blew by Nikon with the EOS system and have never looked back. Nikon is still struggling with a legacy mount, though good is limiting and even AF lenses are not all compatable with all bodies. As I have said before it has been so long since the FD was made that if one is still pining for it they are one foot in the grave. Remember every EF lens fits and fully functions with all features on every EOS digital or film camera ever made. That is forward thinking. Nikon cannot even come close to that claim. PS I can use my FD lenses with an adapter (which I have) but why?
Me too, started in 75 while in South America. Had ... (show quote)

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Sep 10, 2015 14:25:34   #
imagesintime Loc: small town, mid-America
 
mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


Just to keep the facts straight, Canon's release did not say any thing about the sensor being for a 5D camera.

Cdouthitt wrote:
They are working on them now, only to be released after Sony and Nikon release theirs about 2 years prior to Canon.


Like they waited for Sony and Nikon to release a 50mp sensor first?

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Sep 10, 2015 15:27:09   #
Blasthoff Loc: Life halved NY and IN
 
Quote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


Good. Now wake me up again when the market value of a D810 drops below $250.

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Sep 10, 2015 18:18:45   #
fudney Loc: Seymour, TN
 
They are going to have to do a lot of work beyond the sensor, to get this camera to work properly. A lot of data will have to be transmitted, processed and stored, pretty quickly.

Even if they overcome those obstacles, they are going to run into a bottleneck on the storage end. Someone will have to create a better than class 10 memory device, to accept all that data. All I have heard from the Canon users is that Canon's have a greater FPS than Nikons. If faster storage does not become available soon, the 100+ megapixel Canon camera will require some pretty impressive buffering.

If Canon pulls all of this off it will push camera development to new highs. I wish them the best, but I also know, I will not be able to afford one real soon!

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Sep 10, 2015 18:31:40   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
RichardSM wrote:
Can you imagine trying to process a photo out the current crop printers on the market or computer fast enough to Handel the photo as well. Your going to one heck of a buffer to get the job done?


What has Handel got to do with this? I think you mean handle.

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