Drones for photography
Sep 7, 2015 14:03:05 #
Not so. In many if not all states the Police determines who can have a handgun permit. Also need this to purchase one. Now according to our rights We have a right to bear arms but the gov.t keeps reading it differently. Sorry this granddaughter (ok grandson) in your words fought for this country back in 68'. I do think I'm responsible. Part of the goal is fear mongering so that we will be ok with giving up more individual liberties to feel safe.
Sep 8, 2015 11:42:40 #
CHOLLY wrote:
The price we Americans have to pay in order to live in the greatest expression of human will in the history of mankind... is an understanding that in order for us to have THIS civil society, we MUST accept restrictions on individual liberties.
You have the right to own a handgun... but you DO NOT have the right to shoot your neighbor because his dog capped on your lawn.
You have the right to own a handgun... but you DO NOT have the right to shoot your neighbor because his dog capped on your lawn.
We don't need a law saying it's illegal to shoot your neighbor because his dog crapped in your yard. We only need a law that says it's illegal to kill someone w/o just cause. Doesn't matter if it's with a gun, knife, bomb, or a damned drone, or whether it's because his dog crapped in your yard, or because he is sleeping with your wife.
It isn't that we don't need some regulation, it's that we don't need a new regulation every damned time someone kills someone simply because a dog crapped in their yard.
The way it stands today, there are so many stupid laws no one goes through a day w/o breaking a slew of them. The result is the all powerful government can persecute anyone they want, when they want, for breaking any of their goofy laws.
Sep 8, 2015 11:56:16 #
BigDaddy wrote:
We don't need a law saying it's illegal to shoot y... (show quote)
Totally agree
:thumbup:
Sep 8, 2015 15:29:05 #
Why is it that so many people want to make and enforce new laws? Even against behavior that has not been a problem in the past?
We do not need new laws. America has more laws and more people in jail than any other society has ever had since the beginning of history. At about 4 percent of the worlds population, America currently jails over 25% of the worlds prisoners.
For those who want to add new laws against picture taking RC aircraft, new people will be jailed and/or fined and the police state will continue.
We do not need new laws. America has more laws and more people in jail than any other society has ever had since the beginning of history. At about 4 percent of the worlds population, America currently jails over 25% of the worlds prisoners.
For those who want to add new laws against picture taking RC aircraft, new people will be jailed and/or fined and the police state will continue.
Sep 8, 2015 17:03:11 #
Sep 8, 2015 21:10:33 #
You guys are seriously overreacting. :roll:
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
There are really stupid people out there, and responsible owners shouldn't have a problem with keeping them from causing harm to others or their property.
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
There are really stupid people out there, and responsible owners shouldn't have a problem with keeping them from causing harm to others or their property.
Sep 8, 2015 21:30:52 #
Cholly,
It really depends on where you live and your social status. In 2013 600,000 people were arrested for pot possession only. Since 1965, there have been nearly 20 million arrests for marijuana possession. For more than 50 years I've not known one single person arrested for possession, though nearly everyone I knew, including cops had used it. Nobody in my social group was ever targeted, and therefore none were ever arrested.
It really depends on where you live and your social status. In 2013 600,000 people were arrested for pot possession only. Since 1965, there have been nearly 20 million arrests for marijuana possession. For more than 50 years I've not known one single person arrested for possession, though nearly everyone I knew, including cops had used it. Nobody in my social group was ever targeted, and therefore none were ever arrested.
CHOLLY wrote:
You guys are seriously overreacting. :roll:
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
There are really stupid people out there, and responsible owners shouldn't have a problem with keeping them from causing harm to others or their property.
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
There are really stupid people out there, and responsible owners shouldn't have a problem with keeping them from causing harm to others or their property.
Sep 9, 2015 09:20:00 #
^^^This is a very good point. :(
But I will say this: we are far from perfect as a country. But neither are we a police state where no one has any freedom.
Still, we should not be surprised when regular people call for regulation of this newly popular technology.
But I will say this: we are far from perfect as a country. But neither are we a police state where no one has any freedom.
Still, we should not be surprised when regular people call for regulation of this newly popular technology.
Sep 9, 2015 09:51:37 #
CHOLLY wrote:
You guys are seriously overreacting. :roll:
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
This is NOT a police state and contrary to what you may think, rules, regulations, and laws are created for very good reasons.
You sound like a lawyer or politician or both. When the cops can set up road blocks and interrogate citizens who did nothing you are in a police state. When you have to prove you are not a tax fraud to the IRS, rather than them proving you are, you are in a police state. When the government can take your property and give it to someone else because they can potentially get more tax revenue, you are living in a police state. When the government records your phone conversations, requires email servers be made available to them at a whim, you are living in a police state.
When our constitution, designed to protect the individual from the big bad government, is systematically ignored, you can be sure you are living in a police state.
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There are really stupid people out there, and responsible owners shouldn't have a problem with keeping them from causing harm to others or their property.
Perhaps we should pass a law against stupid people.
That way we could eliminate millions of laws designed to protect "us" from stupid people.
Sep 9, 2015 10:31:39 #
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^This is a very good point. :(
But I will say this: we are far from perfect as a country. But neither are we a police state where no one has any freedom.
Still, we should not be surprised when regular people call for regulation of this newly popular technology.
But I will say this: we are far from perfect as a country. But neither are we a police state where no one has any freedom.
Still, we should not be surprised when regular people call for regulation of this newly popular technology.
I will restate this one more time: I believe this newly popular technology is already regulated, to excess in some aspects. Please give examples where you think additional regulation will be effective and helpful. You have made the blanket statement several times that additional regulation is needed without giving examples, so your statement sounds like it could mean dictatorial regulation. In this thread and others I have listed some ways these things could be or could have been regulated that would be effective without crushing the usefulness of this new technology.
Sep 9, 2015 11:22:46 #
Us serfs await the decree of the powers that may be. Oh wait what happened in 1776.
Sep 9, 2015 15:04:59 #
Big daddy you have been listening to too much right wing radio. It has you paranoid beyond reason man. :(
I have been on the borders of East Germany AND North Korea. THOSE were police states.
This is not a police state.
I have been on the borders of East Germany AND North Korea. THOSE were police states.
This is not a police state.
Sep 10, 2015 10:00:27 #
CHOLLY wrote:
Big daddy you have been listening to too much right wing radio. It has you paranoid beyond reason man. :(
I have been on the borders of East Germany AND North Korea. THOSE were police states.
This is not a police state.
I have been on the borders of East Germany AND North Korea. THOSE were police states.
This is not a police state.
If that's the case, I recommend you run out and git yer self a "right wing radio" and listen to it.
While your at it, read up on the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Federalist papers.
While learning about individual freedom, you might want to look up the meaning of ad hominem attack.
Lastly, I lived in the USA when it wasn't a police state, and now I live in the USA when the things I listed above have occurred. I don't need the right wing radio, nor the left wing
media, I have my own eyes, it's not hard to see yourself what has been going on.
We are living in a police state.
Sep 10, 2015 11:19:59 #
For anther perspective ... I got an email invitation to the drone world expo in San Jose, Calif. If anyone wants to go, register on the website. The VIP code for a free pass to the exhibits is SOUNDPIC
I'm on the wrong coast to attend but it's interesting to look at what's being presented.
http://www.droneworldexpo.com/
Bob
I'm on the wrong coast to attend but it's interesting to look at what's being presented.
http://www.droneworldexpo.com/
Bob
Sep 10, 2015 12:47:12 #
BigDaddy wrote:
If that's the case, I recommend you run out and gi... (show quote)
There is a SERIOUS disconnect between reality and the way a small percentage of the population view reality.
YOUR interpretation of reality as it pertains to this discussion is incorrect. And I SERIOUSLY recommend that you STOP listening to your right wing radio. Those people are getting rich by frightening and scaring otherwise good folk to death with exaggerations, mis-truths, and inflammatory rhetoric.
IF this were an actual police state do you think any of that stuff would be on the air? Do you think you would actually be allowed to express your opinion? Do you?
If so, then you don't really understand what a police state is OR the capabilities of our government. A disconnect from reality. :(
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