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Sep 4, 2015 06:27:36   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
Dano wrote:
This is probably a stupid question, but I trust answers from this community much more than Adobe. For years I've used my own archiving system for managing photos and am now finally getting ready to move to Lightroom (still undecided about using the cloud version or the straight download... but that's a topic in itself).

Here's my question: I mostly use a Mac Air which has very limited on-board storage (240GB SSD). When you create a Lightroom catalog, can you designate where it will be stored and can it reside on an external drive? For instance, I keep all of my photos on a 2TB external drive (with dual backups). Can the Lightroom catalog(s) reside there?? Also, on that drive I have 2 primary folders: Work and Personal. I assume I can create a separate catalog for each of those.

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This is probably a stupid question, but I trust an... (show quote)


If you don't trust them regarding any given advice, why use the product? Like most things there are different avenues that get you to where you want to be. Many of which you will find here.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:00:43   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I store my catalog on an external HD which is different from where my photos are stored and my catalog b/u is on a separate HD from both of those BTW I would have only one catalog for all my photos

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Sep 4, 2015 07:03:25   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Dano wrote:
This is probably a stupid question, but I trust answers from this community much more than Adobe. For years I've used my own archiving system for managing photos and am now finally getting ready to move to Lightroom (still undecided about using the cloud version or the straight download... but that's a topic in itself).

Here's my question: I mostly use a Mac Air which has very limited on-board storage (240GB SSD). When you create a Lightroom catalog, can you designate where it will be stored and can it reside on an external drive? For instance, I keep all of my photos on a 2TB external drive (with dual backups). Can the Lightroom catalog(s) reside there?? Also, on that drive I have 2 primary folders: Work and Personal. I assume I can create a separate catalog for each of those.

Thanks all!
This is probably a stupid question, but I trust an... (show quote)


I use Light Room CC and started with Light Room 5.1 from disc. Nothing has changed with the cloud except that when online it downloads updates (automaticly if you choose or you can tell it when you want to accept the updates). Everything concerning the actual software resides on your local computer. The images catalogs can reside on external drives (my wife's actually reside on a 4TB drive on my computer because she only has a 500gb drive on hers). I have a laptop with a 500 gb drive and carry it on trips with Lightroom CC installed and it catalogs everything to an external or multiple external usb drives (which I can then plug into my wife's computer and my computer when we return and add them to out full (non-traveling) catalogs. Lightroom (with some learning curve ) can do about anything you want it too and do it easily. I have found that my biggest problem with it was when I installed an extra 4tb drive and (at first) attempted to move images to the drive without doing it in Light Room (in windows using Windows Explorer). This is a no-no. Always use Lightroom to move your catalogs. A: it is much easier and B: Lightroom knows where they are. Having said that, even when you mess up, Light Room can repair the damage with a little help from you. It is very forgiving. As for the Cloud, many people think that because the word Cloud is involved, the software is somewhere else. Adobe Lightroom CC (cloud version) is completely installed on your computer and you have access to it even if you don't have access to the internet. Lightroom only uses the cloud to verify your serial number and to provide updates. Adobe allows the program to go sometime over 30 days (they won't say exactly how long) without verifying the SN but it gives photographers on trips outside the range of internet the ability to continue to use Light Room to catalogue and process their images.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:08:09   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's a tough decision, and it depends on how much you need/want PS and LR. I have CS6 and LR6, and I'm sticking with them. Neither one will ever cost me a cent, and they can do amazing things. Sure, CC gives frequent updates, but I'm probably not using more than 10% of the capability of either program, and spending $130 every year won't get me anything I need. When you stop paying, you stop processing.


That's always been my view as well, but since I'm starting from scratch with lightroom, I thought it would be a good time to evaluate both strategies. Funny thing is that I gravitate toward purchased software while both my boys (16 & 19) can't imagine anything but a subscription. Sign of our times I suppose.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:11:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Dano wrote:
That's always been my view as well, but since I'm starting from scratch with lightroom, I thought it would be a good time to evaluate both strategies. Funny thing is that I gravitate toward purchased software while both my boys (16 & 19) can't imagine anything but a subscription. Sign of our times I suppose.

The thing I don't like about a subscription is that it's forever! With a magazine subscription, I could keep the back issues, if I wanted. With the CC, there is nothing to keep.

There are millions of hours of online and printed instruction for PS6 and LR6, and I've barely scratched the surface.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:14:51   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I have a laptop with a 500 gb drive and carry it on trips with Lightroom CC installed and it catalogs everything to an external or multiple external usb drives (which I can then plug into my wife's computer and my computer when we return and add them to out full (non-traveling) catalogs.


Does cc licensing allow you to install the program on multiple machines? I end up using 2 desktops (home/work) and 1 laptop.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:31:22   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Dano wrote:
Does cc licensing allow you to install the program on multiple machines? I end up using 2 desktops (home/work) and 1 laptop.


Dano: I believe that with CC you can install and run on 2 at the same time, if you install on a 3rd then you will need to sign out of Adobe CC on one to make use of the third.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:32:38   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Dano wrote:
Does cc licensing allow you to install the program on multiple machines? I end up using 2 desktops (home/work) and 1 laptop.


Yes, they allow 2. They don't even have to be same platform. However you can install on 3 but have to log out of CC on one, not having all 3 active at the same time. I have CC active on laptop and desktop simultaneously most of the time.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:33:47   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Dano wrote:
Does cc licensing allow you to install the program on multiple machines? I end up using 2 desktops (home/work) and 1 laptop.


According to the official license no but I have it installed on 3 machine and can use any two at the same time on one license. When the 3rd signs on, you have to sign out of one of the other 2.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:37:46   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
f8lee wrote:
Donald, if I may ask a kind of related question (I'm an Aperture user about to switch to Lightroom, and plan to use the Aperture Exporter program from Blue Pill Software to convert my Library (all my Aperture image files are referenced anyway).

Anyway, my question has to do with having a laptop as well as a desktop. If I maintain my LR Catalog on the desktop but want to take a Macbook on the road and import images into a copy of LR on that for on-the-fly editing, etc., is it possible to add that (temporary) catalog created on the laptop to the desktop? I mean, if I were to copy the image files themselves over to the external drive on the desktop where I store everything, can the edits, keyboarding, etc., done on the laptop be brought into the "mother ship"?

TIA
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This should show you the steps involved:

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1930499

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Sep 4, 2015 07:39:28   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
Thanks for clarifying the licensing.

Regarding catalogs, if based on volume of images I create a new catalog for every year, is it possible to copy the keyword list to the new catalog?

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Sep 4, 2015 07:42:03   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Revet wrote:
I keep all my images and my catalog on an external hard drive using a USB3 cable and port. Is there any advantage in speed to keeping the catalog on the computer's hard drive or should I stay with what I have ??


USB 3.0 is fast, so you may not see any benefit moving it to your internal, depending on how fast your internal disk is of course.

I did some speed tests on mine to determine the read/write speed of my internal vs my thunderbolt external disk vs my Thunderbolt external SSD, of course the SSD won out being maybe 5 times faster than my internal and twice as fast as my external disk.

I would think that unless you have a really fast internal, the USB 3.0 may be a little faster - assuming the USB external is a standard SATA type drive in the box that is fairly fast to start with.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:42:35   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Dano wrote:
Thanks for clarifying the licensing.

Regarding catalogs, if based on volume of images I create a new catalog for every year, is it possible to copy the keyword list to the new catalog?


There is no need to create new catalogs every year. Why would you want to?

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Sep 4, 2015 07:45:16   #
Dano Loc: North Carolina
 
minniev wrote:
There is no need to create new catalogs every year. Why would you want to?


I read an article that reported that speed became an issue at 10-15K images. Is that not the case? I'd much prefer a single catalog.

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Sep 4, 2015 07:47:53   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Dano wrote:
I read an article that reported that speed became an issue at 10-15K images. Is that not the case? I'd much prefer a single catalog.


I am at 85,000+ now and no issues, single catalog.

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