Vietnam - A Sad Reminder
Aug 22, 2015 07:45:28 #
Jerry-- thanks for posting this poignant summary of the wall. A thank you to all who served. Rich
Aug 22, 2015 07:49:12 #
LaMaCh
Loc: Parkville Md USA
Thanks Jerry,this is the most dishonored group of vets when they came home. things have changed now for the better, I just hope these vets are being treated fairly now.To all of our Vietnam Vets , Thank You
Aug 22, 2015 08:41:18 #
Thank you for posting that Jerry, as I type this with tears running from my eyes.... I now see that the kleenex box is empty.
Aug 22, 2015 08:49:22 #
I have never seen a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine start a war but I know plenty who could end one if the politicians would keep out of it.
Aug 22, 2015 09:18:35 #
silver-rail
Loc: harrisburg, pa
you did remind me of my time in the Marines at that time. It did bring back some bad memories but also some happy times
thank you Semper Fi
thank you Semper Fi
Aug 22, 2015 09:19:46 #
Aug 22, 2015 09:37:32 #
sb wrote:
There will only be no more stupid wars when there are no more stupid politicians. Not sure exactly when THAT will happen!
You got it my friend...but you left out something: "...no more stupid politician defending the interest of the big guys behind the government"....They are not stupid...they are much worst than that......
Aug 22, 2015 09:41:17 #
sb wrote:
"There are no noble wars, just noble warriors."
Amen.
My cousin Chuck is on that wall.
Amen.
My cousin Chuck is on that wall.
SB,
Unfortunately it doesn't take a politician to make a war....just two or more groups of people. The politicians just make them bigger and stupider!
I would submit the inner city gangs are often "at war", the Hatfields and McCoys were at war, etc. Since humans are predators, violence/war/etc pretty much comes with the science.
Definition of war:"a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state."
Aug 22, 2015 09:43:20 #
Thanks, Jerry. Reminds me how much I dread the day when no member of the House or Senate knows first hand the consequences of war. A lot of lives were wasted in Viet Nam, just to take a hill and then give it back. We should never stop honoring these fine patriots. But, don't get me started on Westmoreland.
Aug 22, 2015 10:10:57 #
jerryc41 wrote:
A sober reminder of the cost of war.
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The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 40 years since the last fatality in 1975.
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The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 40 years since the last fatality in 1975.
I remember driving to work every day in the early 80's and hearing a rap type record play on the radio - which I used to turn off.
One day I was not able to turn it off and so heard a record that left a mark on me that remains today. The record was 19 by Paul Hardcastle and referred to the average age of the soldiers sent to Vietnam. It mentioned the great numbers of veterans who were still living that war in their minds.
20 years later Paul Hardcastle made a follow up record from the first - sadly practically nothing had changed.
Today - 40 years on - politicians are still sending troops into battles of questionable value from which many emerge with permanent scars and no respect or help from those that sent them in the first place. Returning troops have even been booed by some people.
It is good to be reminded of the shocking waste of life and let us pray that one day the politicians will have more sense and see the troops as people - not disposable assetts.
Aug 22, 2015 10:35:10 #
sb wrote:
"There are no noble wars, just noble warriors."
Amen.
My cousin Chuck is on that wall.
Amen.
My cousin Chuck is on that wall.
I have only one classmate on the Wall, but that's one too many.
Aug 22, 2015 10:36:22 #
Sad and painful to read, so many young lives lost, so many families blighted by loss and pain. Yet we forget and are doomed to repeat the horror of war for as long as there is no other solution. Maybe, from time to time, there is no other solution.
Aug 22, 2015 10:40:20 #
sb wrote:
There will only be no more stupid wars when there are no more stupid politicians. Not sure exactly when THAT will happen!
Unfortunately, their stupidity has nothing to do with it. It's more like arrogance, hubris, "toughness," and the chance to make millions. It's bad enough that they send our people to fight and die, but ignoring the problems of returning vets and voting down benefits just adds insult to injury. "Can't afford benefits" is no excuse when they thought we could afford the war.
Aug 22, 2015 10:42:23 #
Shakey wrote:
Yet we forget and are doomed to repeat the horror of war for as long as there is no other solution.
"Solution" is the key word. Since WWII, have our wars solved any problem?
Aug 22, 2015 10:45:57 #
rickerb
Loc: utah
sb wrote:
There will only be no more stupid wars when there are no more stupid politicians. Not sure exactly when THAT will happen!
:thumbup:
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