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Apr 15, 2012 17:03:19   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
This "read the manual" thingy gets hairy sometimes.
It works great if you have a comprehensive dedicated book on that particular model camera written by someone whos native language is English.
I have a factory manual and a box of different colored paper clips to keep places in pages that refer me to other pages. And seven different colors is not enough for all the flashbacks on just one question.
Factory manuals are frustrating for a first time user.
Aside from the camera specifications, I've learned more about my camera on UHH and attached links than my camera manual, even though my camera is none of the brands discussed.
...A big thank you to Roger, and all those other fine people that take the time to respond to questions and give valuable advice.

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Apr 15, 2012 18:20:26   #
davejann Loc: Portland Oregon
 
jenny wrote:
davejann wrote:
clicktime wrote:
How will I know the potential of that 800mm lens if I don't get it.
How can I see if I am good at landscape photography if I don't have that 2.8 16mm lens?
How will I know my potential as a portrait photographer if I don,t have that prime 85mm lens.
How will I know if I have a future as a cinema photographer if I don,t get that 5Dmark 2 with video? And they say the new 5D m3 gets better color and saturation with that new processor.
A fact that most don't want to admit is that better equiptment will get better results once it is used correctly. The real question is will it pay for it's self in the long run? Not for most. It's still hard to resist the bling.
How will I know the potential of that 800mm lens i... (show quote)


Simple answer: rent one. Wish I had thought of that before my first marriage :cry:
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Are you suggesting photography involvement can ruin marriages?
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Would depend on how much time and money you spend :-)

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Apr 15, 2012 18:50:58   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
I recently upgraded from a Panasonic Lumix FZ20 purchased in August 2005 to a refurbished Nikon D5000 with "kit" 18-55mm and 55-200mm lenses. I could have gotten a 70-300mm Tamron lens instead of the 55-200, but figured the 55-200 would meet my needs. Maybe I'd have been better off with the 70-300, who knows? I like being able to zoom in from a distance. In any event, I upgraded for two reasons: inability to control focus, particularly in manual mode, and inability to shoot RAW. I'm finding that RAW really does let me improve an image with less effort than doing it in Photoshop (I have no problem with using Photoshop, it's just like any other component of photography, and I don't expect perfection right out of the camera). And the ability to control focus is much improved, so I'll have many fewer rejects.

In other words, I actually did have reasons for upgrading, and I've satisfied them. I'm far from familiar with the settings, and it will take me a long time to outgrow the D5000. I think these lenses will do for quite some time, though maybe I'll find cause to upgrade some time down the line. But I haven't begun to find the limitations of what I now have.

As it is, I exceeded my "budget" (if I waited until I could REALLY afford a DSLR, they'd be burying it with me), but kept it in line with my past camera purchases, so my conscience is (reasonably) clear.

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Apr 15, 2012 20:11:18   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
rayford2 wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Before you buy anything new, be it camera, lens, tripod, whatever, ask yourself two simple questions. First, will this improve my photography? Second, how?

Another way to phrase the same sort of question is, "What will the new kit do for me that my current kit can't?"

Unless you are reasonably clear on the answers to these questions, you shouldn't spend the money.

Cheers,

R.


Sometimes impulsivity steps in. After reading through UHH for the past several months and perusing through the gear most people had, I thought buying a better system would at least get me in the ball park for taking photos the other people did.
Then I asked the first question Roger mentioned and came up with a humiliating "no". I have a bridge camera that has more capabilities than I have knowledge about, so for now I'll content myself with it.
For economic reasons an up-to-date camera set up is a pipe dream until I can justify paying for wider dynamic range and IQ.
What good is an expensive camera body that loses value before you ever learn to use most of its capabilities?
...I hope the devil doesn't make me do it.

Thank you for the tips.
quote=Roger Hicks Before you buy anything new, be... (show quote)


Equipmentitis is a common affliction in Photography.

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Apr 15, 2012 21:08:01   #
Acountry330 Loc: Dothan,Ala USA
 
Wants, overcome needs all the time. If we learned everything about the system we are using we would probably never have to spend another dime.

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Apr 15, 2012 21:34:44   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Before you buy anything new, be it camera, lens, tripod, whatever, ask yourself two simple questions. First, will this improve my photography? Second, how?


Nonsense. "Intelligence and self-control come from the same area of the brain..." Intelligent people don't buy on impulse. No reason to ask yourself anything.

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Apr 15, 2012 22:01:44   #
flashgordonbrown Loc: Silverdale, WA
 
wlgoode wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Before you buy anything new, be it camera, lens, tripod, whatever, ask yourself two simple questions. First, will this improve my photography? Second, how?

Another way to phrase the same sort of question is, "What will the new kit do for me that my current kit can't?"

Unless you are reasonably clear on the answers to these questions, you shouldn't spend the money.

Cheers,

R.


Sometimes impulsivity steps in. After reading through UHH for the past several months and perusing through the gear most people had, I thought buying a better system would at least get me in the ball park for taking photos the other people did.
Then I asked the first question Roger mentioned and came up with a humiliating "no". I have a bridge camera that has more capabilities than I have knowledge about, so for now I'll content myself with it.
For economic reasons an up-to-date camera set up is a pipe dream until I can justify paying for wider dynamic range and IQ.
What good is an expensive camera body that loses value before you ever learn to use most of its capabilities?
...I hope the devil doesn't make me do it.

Thank you for the tips.
quote=Roger Hicks Before you buy anything new, be... (show quote)


Equipmentitis is a common affliction in Photography.
quote=rayford2 quote=Roger Hicks Before you buy ... (show quote)


Also known as GAS(Gear Acquisition Syndrome!)

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Apr 15, 2012 22:28:57   #
clicktime Loc: Yucca Valley Ca.
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Before you buy anything new, be it camera, lens, tripod, whatever, ask yourself two simple questions. First, will this improve my photography? Second, how?

Another way to phrase the same sort of question is, "What will the new kit do for me that my current kit can't?"

Unless you are reasonably clear on the answers to these questions, you shouldn't spend the money.

Cheers,

R.

OK Roger tell us the truth. I know you are one of the pro photographers on this site. I have some of your books. Do you use old outdated equiptment or do you use up to date pro level stuff? Better yet, does your buisness buy you the best stuff out there? If you could have the best would you turn it down? I would like to see a list of your photo equiptment. I bet it's to die for. I would never suggest someone buy more they can afford, but get the best you can and lean how to use it properly before getting more. You are correct when you say people over buy. We all want to acheive the level of succes you enjoy but few are willing to do the work it takes to get there. Ps: your books are great.

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Apr 15, 2012 22:38:58   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
rayford2 wrote:
This "read the manual" thingy gets hairy sometimes.
It works great if you have a comprehensive dedicated book on that particular model camera written by someone whos native language is English.
I have a factory manual and a box of different colored paper clips to keep places in pages that refer me to other pages. And seven different colors is not enough for all the flashbacks on just one question.
Factory manuals are frustrating for a first time user.
Aside from the camera specifications, I've learned more about my camera on UHH and attached links than my camera manual, even though my camera is none of the brands discussed.
...A big thank you to Roger, and all those other fine people that take the time to respond to questions and give valuable advice.
This "read the manual" thingy gets hairy... (show quote)


Factory manuals are challenging for me after 35 yrs. in photography and owning a half dozen high quality cameras in 3 different formats. And after having been a photo equipment technician.

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Apr 16, 2012 10:23:44   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
clicktime wrote:
OK Roger tell us the truth. I know you are one of the pro photographers on this site. I have some of your books. Do you use old outdated equiptment or do you use up to date pro level stuff? Better yet, does your buisness buy you the best stuff out there? If you could have the best would you turn it down? I would like to see a list of your photo equiptment. I bet it's to die for. I would never suggest someone buy more they can afford, but get the best you can and lean how to use it properly before getting more. You are correct when you say people over buy. We all want to acheive the level of succes you enjoy but few are willing to do the work it takes to get there. Ps: your books are great.
OK Roger tell us the truth. I know you are one of ... (show quote)


Believe it or not, the only current, modern digital camera I use is my Leica M9. If I'm not using that, a lot of my basic illustration for magazines is done with a Nikon D70, though that's now getting sufficiently unreliable (refusing to recognize cards) that I'll probably buy a D800. The lens I use most on the D70 is a manual focus Vivitar 90/2.5 macro.

Why a D800 instead of a 'pro' model? Because it doesn't get used hard, so there's no sense in spending the money. Bear in mind that 'the company' who 'buys it for me' IS me, so another $3000 (say) on equipment is another $3000 off my travel budget. As I write and take pictures to fund an agreeable, semi-retired lifestyle, I'd rather travel. With any luck, I'll be in the Pyrenees next week.

For the sort of application for which I use the D70, the megapixels don't interest me much: the D70 shots are rarely run as big as half page. If I want quality, in B+W I use film (in numerous formats) and in colour, there's the M9. The M9's 18 megapixels are OK for a double page spread for the sort of things I shoot nowadays. If I were still in advertising (which was where I started, but which I've not done for 30 years or more) I'd buy or hire either Leica S2 or Hasselblad gear. I'm idly looking forward to trying some HDR food photography if and when I get the D800, though.

Sure, I'd not turn down a top-of-the-line Nikon, or an S2 for that matter, but equally, there's no need to spend the money on one, so I don't. It wouldn't get me better pictures, or earn me more money.

Thanks for the kind words about the books, but if you look in them, you'll see that often, I was using 10- and 20-year old kit (and older) to illustrate those, too: Nikon Fs, old Leicas, Linhofs from the 60s to the 80s. Though admittedly I used Alpa too and I'm idly wondering about a digital back for those.

Cheers,

R.

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