Camera suggestion (Page 4): Professionals also experiment and buy for the sheer joy of owning and more importantly using. The distinction is no longer clear. I don't disagree with your...

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

amfoto1 wrote:

Welcome to UHH!

Without knowing a lot more about your plans, it's very difficult to make recommendations.

For one, Pentax makes good gear and more than a few pros use them. Like all camera brands, Pentax has strengths and weaknesses. But, for many specific types of photography, a Pentax can do as well, maybe even better than some other brands of cameras.

You didn't mention what Pentax and lenses you got. That would be the first thing we need to know.

Next, what specific type of professional photography would you like to do and what is your level of experience at this point?

What, if any, shortcomings of the Pentax gear you have now do you feel are preventing you from making the shots you need to make professionally?

Armed with that info, we might be in better position to advise. But, to a professional their camera and lenses are tools to do a job.... And most will only buy what's needed for the job they plan on doing. Hobbyists, on the other hand, often will buy gear just for the sheer joy of owning and experimenting with, and are often a lot quicker to buyt the "latest and greatest". Truth is, it's rare that new gear will ever make anyone a "better photographer" and there are often ways that they could have achieved pretty much as good results with their "old" gear. There's also something to be said for shooting with "familiar" gear, so that you aren't distracted by learning new control layouts and wading through a maze of unfamiliar features, so you can concentrate on the image, not just standing there scratching your head about how to make the gear do what you need it to do.

Some previous posts have also tried to make another points... in some cases rather unkindly... that once you have gained some experience you will probably be able to answer the question yourself, for the large part. You'll pretty quickly get a good idea what your needs are and whether or not Pentax can meet those needs. As of now, without any further info, it's probably best to stick with, learn to use and get the best out of what you've got... before switching brands or investing a lot more in gear.

The "basics" of shooting are little different brand to brand, and can be as well learned on a Pentax as with a Sony, Canon, Nikon, Olympus or any other DSLR.

Welcome to UHH! br br Without knowing a lot more... (show quote)

Professionals also experiment and buy for the sheer joy of owning and more importantly using. The distinction is no longer clear. I don't disagree with your view but I would expand it a bit. Today, there are many classified professionals and amateurs with equal skill sets. The problem I see is that the term "professional" always seemed to denote superior. I no longer see that as true. Just My Opinion

Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada

Laura72568 wrote:

I just feel that a new member might get a bad impression of UHH as a whole when getting comments like this. Watch how you say what you're saying. Be courteous. That's all. I get sick of all of these smart a$$, replies that seem to be "talking down" to someone who is asking us for advice. If you don't understand that, then I'm sorry for you.

Laura maybe you don't understand, if you post something on one of these forums you are looking for feedback and it can't all be good, and to your liking, also sometimes a little negative response is a good and welcome reply

Just Saying :| :|

Swede

BebuLamar

Mark7829 wrote:

Professionals also experiment and buy for the sheer joy of owning and more importantly using. The distinction is no longer clear. I don't disagree with your view but I would expand it a bit. Today, there are many classified professionals and amateurs with equal skill sets. The problem I see is that the term "professional" always seemed to denote superior. I no longer see that as true. Just My Opinion

I agree that professional has nothing to do with skill level but how do you answer someone who ask I want to make money playing music which instrument should I buy?

fantom Loc: Colorado

bicyclerepairman wrote:

I have also noticed a fair amount of condescending and rude comments. I think there needs to be a "rude dude" section on this site where they can gather and happily insult each other.

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Agreed but it should be called "Rude, elitist know-it -all blowhards".

bicyclerepairman Loc: North Central Texas

Yeah Fantom...you said it better than I.

Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada

bicyclerepairman wrote:

Yeah Fantom...you said it better than I.

Ever visit the Attic :?: :?:

Swede :| :|

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Swede wrote:

Laura maybe you don't understand, if you post something on one of these forums you are looking for feedback and it can't all be good, and to your liking, also sometimes a little negative response is a good and welcome reply

Just Saying :| :|

Swede

Yes, even negative feedback, but sans the snarkyness.

picturesofdogs Loc: Dallas, Texas.

bicyclerepairman wrote:

I have also noticed a fair amount of condescending and rude comments. I think there needs to be a "rude dude" section on this site where they can gather and happily insult each other.

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Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA

Davidg wrote:

I'm just bought a Pentax dslr about a year ago and looking to upgrade in lenses and accessories but it seems very hard to find. I was advised it may be best to change cameras. Any suggestion for a starter professional photographer?

You made a good choice with Pentax. There are some significant advantages to this brand. As to accessories, either Adorama or B&H have a full line.

I normally shoot Nikons but over the years have used Pentax with excellent results. The only problem with Pentax is their marketing department.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

BebuLamar wrote:

I agree that professional has nothing to do with skill level but how do you answer someone who ask I want to make money playing music which instrument should I buy?

And you are a musician who is making money? Then I am sure you could direct him to try to find something that appeals to him and then invite him for a discussion after he has made that determination. You're not going to tell him to take up the accordion are you? But if you are very good at whatever instrument you are playing (even an accordion), you can make money with anything, right? I did not say, a lot of money but money none the less.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

Reinaldokool wrote:

You made a good choice with Pentax. There are some significant advantages to this brand. As to accessories, either Adorama or B&H have a full line.

I normally shoot Nikons but over the years have used Pentax with excellent results. The only problem with Pentax is their marketing department.

How did you make that determination (no disrespect) as I think the OP would like more information.. My personal opinion is that is impossible to make any recommendation with out a whole lot of additional information including what he thinks a professional photographer is or does.I am just trying to be fair and inclusive. Just to share what is in your bag is not being fair to the OP or anyone else who has something different in theirs. Who would not agree?

dhellner Loc: milwaukee wi.

amfoto1 wrote:

Welcome to UHH!

Without knowing a lot more about your plans, it's very difficult to make recommendations.

For one, Pentax makes good gear and more than a few pros use them. Like all camera brands, Pentax has strengths and weaknesses. But, for many specific types of photography, a Pentax can do as well, maybe even better than some other brands of cameras.

You didn't mention what Pentax and lenses you got. That would be the first thing we need to know.

Next, what specific type of professional photography would you like to do and what is your level of experience at this point?

What, if any, shortcomings of the Pentax gear you have now do you feel are preventing you from making the shots you need to make professionally?

Armed with that info, we might be in better position to advise. But, to a professional their camera and lenses are tools to do a job.... And most will only buy what's needed for the job they plan on doing. Hobbyists, on the other hand, often will buy gear just for the sheer joy of owning and experimenting with, and are often a lot quicker to buyt the "latest and greatest". Truth is, it's rare that new gear will ever make anyone a "better photographer" and there are often ways that they could have achieved pretty much as good results with their "old" gear. There's also something to be said for shooting with "familiar" gear, so that you aren't distracted by learning new control layouts and wading through a maze of unfamiliar features, so you can concentrate on the image, not just standing there scratching your head about how to make the gear do what you need it to do.

Some previous posts have also tried to make another points... in some cases rather unkindly... that once you have gained some experience you will probably be able to answer the question yourself, for the large part. You'll pretty quickly get a good idea what your needs are and whether or not Pentax can meet those needs. As of now, without any further info, it's probably best to stick with, learn to use and get the best out of what you've got... before switching brands or investing a lot more in gear.

The "basics" of shooting are little different brand to brand, and can be as well learned on a Pentax as with a Sony, Canon, Nikon, Olympus or any other DSLR.

Welcome to UHH! br br Without knowing a lot more... (show quote)

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selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

amfoto1 wrote:

Welcome to UHH! ...

I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings but Davidg joined UHH and made a single post before he was welcomed 16 minutes later by the nasty comment. Check his profile - one thread, one post.

Feel free to discuss the question among yourselves but I doubt we will ever hear from him again.

That's probably the shortest membership on record!

BebuLamar

Mark7829 wrote:

And you are a musician who is making money? Then I am sure you could direct him to try to find something that appeals to him and then invite him for a discussion after he has made that determination. You're not going to tell him to take up the accordion are you? But if you are very good at whatever instrument you are playing (even an accordion), you can make money with anything, right? I did not say, a lot of money but money none the less.

Oh I see and I am not a pro who is making money in photography and so definitely can not answer his question. So yeah the question is only for those who are pros to answer.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

BebuLamar wrote:

Oh I see and I am not a pro who is making money in photography and so definitely can not answer his question. So yeah the question is only for those who are pros to answer.

My point is that even a pro (whatever that is) can't answer that question without a whole lot of other information.