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Aug 4, 2015 10:27:48   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
I noticed the new 24-70mm f2.8 includes VR, two questions came to mind. Do you need VR on that focal range and did they up the filter thread to 82mm to make the VR fit or to sell more expensive ND and CPL filters?

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Aug 4, 2015 10:30:29   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
skiman wrote:
I noticed the new 24-70mm f2.8 includes VR, two questions came to mind. Do you need VR on that focal range and did they up the filter thread to 82mm to make the VR fit or to sell more expensive ND and CPL filters?


IMHO, VR is very handy in certain situations. The increase in filter size may relate to vignetting with a filter.

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Aug 4, 2015 11:10:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
skiman wrote:
I noticed the new 24-70mm f2.8 includes VR, two questions came to mind. Do you need VR on that focal range and did they up the filter thread to 82mm to make the VR fit or to sell more expensive ND and CPL filters?

VR can be helpful, and selling a top-quality lens without it would be a challenge.

As for the filter size, they design the lens for best performance, and a large aperture requires a large lens.

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Aug 4, 2015 11:44:09   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
VR can be helpful, and selling a top-quality lens without it would be a challenge.

As for the filter size, they design the lens for best performance, and a large aperture requires a large lens.


But the current 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 with VR are only 77mm. Just makes you wonder.

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Aug 4, 2015 16:53:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
skiman wrote:
But the current 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 with VR are only 77mm. Just makes you wonder.

All the world makes me wonder. :D

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Aug 4, 2015 19:46:36   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
All the world makes me wonder. :D


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 4, 2015 20:27:44   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
skiman wrote:
But the current 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 with VR are only 77mm. Just makes you wonder.


It's not actually that much difference. 5mm is around .2"….

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Aug 4, 2015 21:40:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
It's not actually that much difference. 5mm is around .2"….

But it means having to buy one or more expensive filters. That would make me think twice. I have 77mm filters that I use on 72 and 62 mm lenses with step up rings.

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Aug 5, 2015 07:07:04   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
jerryc41 wrote:
But it means having to buy one or more expensive filters. That would make me think twice. I have 77mm filters that I use on 72 and 62 mm lenses with step up rings.


I have done exactly the same thing. I have a V-ND that cost about $400 so I will not be "trading up" to VR any time soon. I have 3 Nikkor lenses with 77mm diameters. Since aperture, focal length and diameter are arithmeticaly interrelated, my guess is that the newer version is shorter

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Aug 5, 2015 07:45:13   #
drmarty Loc: Pine City, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
All the world makes me wonder. :D


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 5, 2015 08:40:04   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
Fotomacher wrote:
I have done exactly the same thing. I have a V-ND that cost about $400 so I will not be "trading up" to VR any time soon. I have 3 Nikkor lenses with 77mm diameters. Since aperture, focal length and diameter are arithmeticaly interrelated, my guess is that the newer version is shorter


That's a good thought. Vignetting from a filter might still be a factor.

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Aug 5, 2015 08:43:29   #
steveg48
 
skiman wrote:
I noticed the new 24-70mm f2.8 includes VR, two questions came to mind. Do you need VR on that focal range and did they up the filter thread to 82mm to make the VR fit or to sell more expensive ND and CPL filters?


I don't think Nikon makes filters. If that is true that would not be their motivation. If you use rectangular filters or a cpl that mounts to the rerctangular filter holder, which I do, you just need an 82mm adapter for your holder. You do not need new filters.

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Aug 5, 2015 08:51:25   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
steveg48 wrote:
I don't think Nikon makes filters. If that is true that would not be their motivation. If you use rectangular filters or a cpl that mounts to the rerctangular filter holder, which I do, you just need an 82mm adapter for your holder. You do not need new filters.


FYI, Nikon does make filters. For their 82mm NC, they sell for over $100 each.

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Aug 5, 2015 08:55:12   #
steveg48
 
RKL349 wrote:
FYI, Nikon does make filters. For their 82mm NC, they sell for over $100 each.


OK,- didn't know that. Do thry make cpls too?

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Aug 5, 2015 10:53:38   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
steveg48 wrote:
OK,- didn't know that. Do thry make cpls too?


Yes, $179 for the new 82mm CPL, $119 for the NC.

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