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Jul 13, 2015 07:59:42   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Interesting thread but if the photos are good so what

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Jul 13, 2015 08:12:06   #
Ctrclckws
 
jerrypoller wrote:
The Exif file date from the photo I took with my D610 reports the serial number as 3032576 and the lens ID as 2,1247,483,647. I looked up the Nikkor serial numbers for the Nikon 20-35 f/2.8 and saw a range of 200533-286258 produced between '93 and '01. Can anyone please confirm that my lens is NOT a Nikon built lens from these numbers?


The 303xxxx number might be the camera's serial number, and not the lens.

On the' D' lenses I have the serial number is printed on the aperture ring in dark ink, so it is hard to see.

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Jul 13, 2015 08:16:07   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
My sentiments as well.... Yes, there is a lot of sub contracting done in all businesses Cosina makes most of the film cameras for the photographic manufacturers. This said, I wouldn't obsess over the listing in the EXIF. I'm pretty sure it's a software issue, not a hardware one. My Epson printer used to tell me I wasn't using genuine Epson inks when I surely was.... I worked for Subaru & our plant in Japan has made sheet metal for Nissan, among others and several of our electrical components were boxed in Mitubishi boxes. Japanese manufacturers, unlike here , help each other out during rough patches. ....
mborn wrote:
Interesting thread but if the photos are good so what

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Jul 13, 2015 09:15:16   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
Grnway wrote:
If it's any consolation, my computer thinks that my Tamron 70-200 is a Canon. Now, not that I want to get rid of it, but if I could only get the resale value of the Canon.....


The bricks shall really start flying if your tamron was actually mounted on a Nikon body but the computer thinks that it is a canon! <LOL>

I wonder if the tokina-nikon has to do with the embedded (transplanted?) chip during a repair, etc by a third party repairperson??

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Jul 13, 2015 09:15:38   #
Capn_Dave
 
ssymeono wrote:
I have owned this lens for many years (picture attached). It was introduced in 1993 and was the predecessor of AF 17-35 and like it it maintains f/2.8 aperture throughout. It has a filter thread of 77mm, 14 elements in 11 groups. It was Nikon's first AF lens for extreme wide-angle range. The serial number of mine is 242267. There is no indication on it that it was made by Tokina or any other company.


Strange I have never seen where Canon and Nikon have licensed other to manufacturers. Can you back that up?. I know as a fact Canon won't even outsource their mounts.

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Jul 13, 2015 09:15:42   #
Capn_Dave
 
ssymeono wrote:
I have owned this lens for many years (picture attached). It was introduced in 1993 and was the predecessor of AF 17-35 and like it it maintains f/2.8 aperture throughout. It has a filter thread of 77mm, 14 elements in 11 groups. It was Nikon's first AF lens for extreme wide-angle range. The serial number of mine is 242267. There is no indication on it that it was made by Tokina or any other company.


Strange I have never seen where Canon and Nikon have licensed other to manufacturers. Can you back that up?. I know as a fact Canon won't even outsource their mounts.

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Jul 13, 2015 09:19:02   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
My sentiments as well.... Yes, there is a lot of sub contracting done in all businesses Cosina makes most of the film cameras for the photographic manufacturers. This said, I wouldn't obsess over the listing in the EXIF. I'm pretty sure it's a software issue, not a hardware one. My Epson printer used to tell me I wasn't using genuine Epson inks when I surely was.... I worked for Subaru & our plant in Japan has made sheet metal for Nissan, among others and several of our electrical components were boxed in Mitubishi boxes. Japanese manufacturers, unlike here , help each other out during rough patches. ....
My sentiments as well.... Yes, there is a lot of s... (show quote)


In fact one of the later Nikon film slr was built by Cosina but sold under the marquee of Nikon!

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Jul 13, 2015 09:19:50   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Cosina makes all Japanese manufacturers film cameras & simply re-badges them with the manufactures name
Capn_Dave wrote:
Strange I have never seen where Canon and Nikon have licensed other to manufacturers. Can you back that up?. I know as a fact Canon won't even outsource their mounts.

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Jul 13, 2015 09:23:32   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
A link to verify this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_FM10

Ranjan wrote:
In fact one of the later Nikon film slr was built by Cosina but sold under the marquee of Nikon!

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Jul 13, 2015 09:24:51   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Links to verify...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosina
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Cosina
Screamin Scott wrote:
Cosina makes all Japanese manufacturers film cameras & simply re-badges them with the manufactures name

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Jul 13, 2015 09:29:22   #
DVJ
 
I think this is an interesting discussion.

Did anyone notice that both Nikon and another company brought out 18~300mm f/3.5~6.3 lenses recently on the same day and which seem to have identical lens formulas? Coincidence?

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Jul 13, 2015 09:39:25   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
ssymeono wrote:
I have owned this lens for many years (picture attached). It was introduced in 1993 and was the predecessor of AF 17-35 and like it it maintains f/2.8 aperture throughout. It has a filter thread of 77mm, 14 elements in 11 groups. It was Nikon's first AF lens for extreme wide-angle range. The serial number of mine is 242267. There is no indication on it that it was made by Tokina or any other company.


You are right, the lens was manufactured by Nikon.
As far as I know Nikon does not rely on any other company to make its lenses. Tokina was founded by some optical engineers that used to work for Nikon but their resemblance stops right there.
Until today Nikon continues to manufacture its own lenses with their own raw materials.

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Jul 13, 2015 09:51:51   #
ssymeono Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
 
camerapapi wrote:
You are right, the lens was manufactured by Nikon.
As far as I know Nikon does not rely on any other company to make its lenses. Tokina was founded by some optical engineers that used to work for Nikon but their resemblance stops right there.
Until today Nikon continues to manufacture its own lenses with their own raw materials.


Thank you for verifying. Please note that JPL on page 2 of this thread has actually solved the mystery as a computer mistake or camera glitch.

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Jul 13, 2015 10:09:57   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Word of mouth amounts to verification ? I found this while researching... Nikon likely bought out plants in Thailand & China....
http://www.dslrbodies.com/nikon/about-nikon/nikon-faq/where-are-nikon-cameras-and.html
ssymeono wrote:
Thank you for verifying. Please note that JPL on page 2 of this thread has actually solved the mystery as a computer mistake or camera glitch.

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Jul 13, 2015 10:23:40   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
I wouldn't necessarily trust the EXIF data. I routinely use a Yongnuo Flash on my D7100 & D300 for macro. The EXIF indicates that no flash fired. Trust me; it did: you can see the highlights and there would be no picture in the deep shade of a forest on a cloudy day. ;-)

If the firmware won't read an off-brand flash it's just as possible that it might misidentify an older lens.

And I'm NOT entering the fray of whether it's made by Tokina or Nikon.

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