Stopped by the Police
Jul 9, 2015 08:51:50 #
The Villages
Loc: The Villages, Florida
[quote=cmc65 Often times an arsonist 'hangs around' a fire they've set for the kick. [/quote]
Its a situation that could have gone either way, but your comment is one to be considered.
Its a situation that could have gone either way, but your comment is one to be considered.
Jul 9, 2015 08:53:49 #
Marilyng wrote:
I think the police were just a little on edge with all the recent fires they have had in the area.Give them a thumbs up for being concerned,that is their job,your photos are amazing, thanks for sharing the link with us!
Thank for taking the time to view and the compliment. Oh the :thumbup: for the police
Willie
Jul 9, 2015 08:59:54 #
twillsol wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: I agree with you Oddjobber
OddJobber wrote:
I don't believe you deserve all the criticism you've received over this, but I do believe that you're the one overreacting. Your headline, "Stopped by the Police", turns out to be nothing more than a question in passing and you're the one continuing to pursue the issue looking for validation that you've been wronged somehow.
Agree with both of you on the title, however the time had elapsed for me to change to something a little more representative of the event.
I remember reading Oddjobbers post, but missed part of the post or simply IDNR. I was not looking for validation that I had been wronged. This was one small moment if life.
Willie
Jul 9, 2015 09:25:32 #
Mark7829
Loc: Calfornia
ecar wrote:
Very well said !! :thumbup: :thumbup:
You might want to but it is his right to do so. We have thousands of photojournalists out there who record some of the most grizzly events in history... they provide information about our culture, politics and society. We should not stop them or anyone else. Do what you see best but don't put your standards on anyone else but yourself. That is just wrong....
Jul 9, 2015 09:29:54 #
fjrwillie wrote:
Sunday 6 families lost their home to a fire. This ... (show quote)
The responses to your post are sickening. People have fought and died for your right to do just what you did. The police certainly have the power to request information about your presence in the vicinity. We depend on them to do so. But a free citizenry also has the right to observe and photograph the activity, including the police, around an incident like this.
It detracts from the human pain not a bit. The news media is often given a little more opportunity to cover such incidents, but the average citizen is not to be squelched. The police had every right to ask you about your presence in a crime area. But that does not include the right to intimidate you to keep you from photographing them at their work. Not only has this been supported in the courts, a well-trained police force knows this. If you crossed the police line/tape, they would have had the right to detain you, but you didn't.
I am very supportive of the law-enforcement profession. They do a difficult job. I have taught police and am sympathetic. Part of their self-protection is their orientation to power. But it does sometimes lead to this kind of abuse of power.
This is a nation of laws and government employees such as police must follow the law or we are living in a different nation than we just celebrated a few days ago.
Jul 9, 2015 09:33:06 #
Also realize that police are being targeted. How did those officers know if you were getting their picture to identify them to cause them harm. Sounds bizarre? Unfortunately not in todays wacko society.
Jul 9, 2015 09:36:02 #
Taking a picture may have helped the police.
Maybe "IF" the fire was suspicious there may have been a person in the picture that may have been involved. Pictures from different scenes could have revieled a person showing up a few times.
I don't look at it as taking pictures of someone elses misfortune at all. It is something that may have been helpful even to the insurance companies.
Maybe "IF" the fire was suspicious there may have been a person in the picture that may have been involved. Pictures from different scenes could have revieled a person showing up a few times.
I don't look at it as taking pictures of someone elses misfortune at all. It is something that may have been helpful even to the insurance companies.
Jul 9, 2015 09:36:27 #
There is one more thing I want to add to this post. It seems to me that the loudest ones trumpeting "rights" are the ones that also do not even post where they are located. What's wrong people, afraid that you would be identified? And yet you want police to be photographed in their official duties so that they can be identified...
Jul 9, 2015 09:51:15 #
i'm from the philadelphia area and in my younger years working for the Sheriff's deparment.
I don't see why anyone should have to say where they are from. Where are you from? What's your address? What's your phone number?
I don't see why anyone should have to say where they are from. Where are you from? What's your address? What's your phone number?
Jul 9, 2015 10:12:47 #
fjrwillie wrote:
Sunday 6 families lost their home to a fire. This ... (show quote)
If I thought someone on the street took a picture of me, I would ask them if they took a picture of me---and I am not a police officer. What was the infringement of anyone's rights?
Jul 9, 2015 10:15:38 #
This post is not about photography and should be in either chit chat or the attic
Jul 9, 2015 10:20:56 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
If I thought someone on the street took a picture of me, I would ask them if they took a picture of me---and I am not a police officer. What was the infringement of anyone's rights?
Why would you ask?? What could they possibly do with the picture that would make a difference in your life. This is assuming you did not want you picture taken because of some deed you did, that you do not want documented.
Of course if someone was using their cell phone that would be acceptable. It doesn't look like a phone.
We have become way over sensitive today in our speech, in our opinions and how we live our lives. Egg shells ??
Willie
Jul 9, 2015 10:33:37 #
It would seem pictures of a fire taken at the first opportunity to see it could be of value to the fire dept. later in their investigation as to the cause. That would be my motivation for getting a picture and the only one, and would try to do so without thought of what other people were thinking.
Jul 9, 2015 10:44:19 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
The police have every right to question whoever they feel might have something to do with the fires. Sounds like someone was starting them. Sometimes those who start the fire return to watch and take pictures. You should come down off you high horse and expect to be questioned. Don't have such a hard shell, lighten up a bit, the police have a tough job, don't make it harder by calling the station and saying you have a right to photograph them in a public place, as far as I am concerned, you sound like a whining photographer with nothing to do but complain. Lighten up before you have a heart attack.
Jul 9, 2015 10:56:42 #
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