Do anyone have a photo price list for amateur? THANKS
Veevee wrote:
Do anyone have a photo price list for amateur? THANKS
Amateurs do not charge . . . that's why they are called amateurs. As soon as you charge you have just become a professional.
Weddingguy wrote:
Amateurs do not charge . . . that's why they are called amateurs. As soon as you charge you have just become a professional.
And the answer to his question is . . . ?
RS wrote:
And the answer to his question is . . . ?
If amateurs do not charge . . then there can be no price list for amateurs, now can there?
Or would you have been happier with:
5x7s $0.00
8x10s $0.00
11x14s $0.00
8 hour wedding coverage $0.00
:mrgreen:
Weddingguy wrote:
If amateurs do not charge . . then there can be no price list for amateurs, now can there?
Or would you have been happier with:
5x7s $0.00
8x10s $0.00
11x14s $0.00
8 hour wedding coverage $0.00
:mrgreen:
Lol...I guess this was lost on everyone else.
The only thing missing is that you haven't been called a rude meany yet...
Let me be the first...YOU RUDE Meany!! :)
As stated above, amateur are just that, doing it for the hobby or sport of it so to say, if your thinking of changing over to professional then you charge.
The rates would be mostly on the event and service you wish to provide. If you a invited or if you just decide to take some photo's of a High School Event. Will you be printing or just providing a file threw an email. You could be looking at 15 to 45 dollars a shot. But you will have to sell them. I would suggest you be more definitive in your post.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Veevee wrote:
Do anyone have a photo price list for amateur? THANKS
Your pricing structure should be based on your P&L. An accountant can help you determine how much time you spend on things, what your overhead is, what your hard costs are, etc and what your profit margin is. If you do it on a model business plan it will be an estimate, if you do it on historical data then you will have some real numbers.
Once you do this, you are no longer an amateur.
If your work is only of amateur quality, maybe you want not do your customers a disservice - work with a pro until you get your work to pro quality standards, then you can charge what he/she charges.
Otherwise, you should do work pro-bono until it meets professional standards.
This does not even begin to address the question of customer relations - the "real" difference between amateurs and pros. But that was not your question.
Weddingguy wrote:
Amateurs do not charge . . . that's why they are called amateurs. As soon as you charge you have just become a professional.
A professional Photographers earns all his income from photography.
The rest are glorified amateurs who think they are professionals.
Then there is the true amateur that knows little and wants to learn.
Veevee wrote:
Do anyone have a photo price list for amateur? THANKS
Ask what their budget is and maybe they will tell you what they are able to pay then you can say yes or no.
Gene51 wrote:
Your pricing structure should be based on your P&L. An accountant can help you determine how much time you spend on things, what your overhead is, what your hard costs are, etc and what your profit margin is. If you do it on a model business plan it will be an estimate, if you do it on historical data then you will have some real numbers.
Once you do this, you are no longer an amateur.
If your work is only of amateur quality, maybe you want not do your customers a disservice - work with a pro until you get your work to pro quality standards, then you can charge what he/she charges.
Otherwise, you should do work pro-bono until it meets professional standards.
This does not even begin to address the question of customer relations - the "real" difference between amateurs and pros. But that was not your question.
Your pricing structure should be based on your P&a... (
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Who determines when the work meets "professional standards"?
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Kmgw9v wrote:
Who determines when the work meets "professional standards"?
The client - always.
But the photographer will make that determination if he sees his work side by side with a working successful pro's work. Most of the difference I've seen with amateur events shooting and pro is the lighting. How the lighting is handled is the biggest "tell." A pro will use a variety of lighting techniques and modifiers to make the images look as flattering as possible to the subjects - adding a CTO filter to the flash to bring the white balance closer to ambient for a nice mix, taking the speedlight way off axis from the camera for more dramatic lighting (with shadows), posing, timing, etc. This is all assuming that the shooter can take a proper exposure and focus the camera. It's pretty easy for anyone to see the difference.
AT the end of the day, if the client can't tell the difference, then it would be a waste of money to hire a pro. It's ok to go with the cheap or free option.
JCam
Loc: MD Eastern Shore
Weddingguy wrote:
Amateurs do not charge . . . that's why they are called amateurs. As soon as you charge you have just become a professional.
Your reply to the poster looks like a is a clumsy attempt to ward off potential competition. You didn't even ask if he was inquiring about "photographic services" or just "prints" before sending him a non-nonsensical answer.
Sale of an occasional print does not make a "professional", neither does your answer!
Weddingguy wrote:
As soon as you charge you have just become a professional.
I thought it was much more difficult to become a professional photographer. :D
You are right, though. If you want camera insurance and have ever sold an image, you have to pay the pro rates.
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