Dilemma - Canon 5d s r (Page 2): Everything about this topic has been said well so perhaps what I have to add is simply a redundancy but.....I've just finished going through years of...

coyotecall Loc: New Mexico

Everything about this topic has been said well so perhaps what I have to add is simply a redundancy but.....I've just finished going through years of accumulated camera equipment for an 84 year old photographer friend of mine (I'm 80 by the way).
We have piles of Minolta, Pentax, Topco, Nikon, Canon, Polaroid, and Solora equipment not to mention the video stuff, Thousands of dollars of the-next-best-thing(s) and most of it will be dumped. Todays (and yesterdays) high tech....tomorrows land fill. Try to get some perspective outside the viewfinder. You're probably already a fine photographer with top of the line equipment. Do you REALLY NEED anything else?

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

SharpShooter wrote:

An even WISER man once said, If you try to take it all with you, you will enjoy life a LOT LESS !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
SS

That is true too. So the cliché goes on and on?

And as far as I know only one review I've seen was in ether Pop Photo or Shutterbug Magazine a month or two back and it was fairly vague on the 5D R model ?

bweber Loc: Newton, MA

I would buy the 5DSR. I picked mine up on Friday and I see much sharper images already. There is virtually no learning curve if you are familiar with Canon cameras. The attached images were shot as a test of the new camera. They are significantly cropped images taken with the new 5DSR and my 1DS III. Both images were shot hand held at ISO 400 using a canon 135 f2.0 at f2.8 and 1/60 or 1/80s. You can see that the 5dsr is much sharper. I bought the camera because I wanted to approach the level of my Pentax 6x7, and I think I have achieved it.

5DSR

1DS III

bfphoto Loc: Houston, TX

TNmike wrote:

B&H had a Live View discussion today that might be of some help. It might not be unbiased but has some info. Link Below. It's about 1 1/2 hour. TNmike

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/promotion/11107/canon-eos-5dsr-live-panel.html

TNmike, thanks for the link. It really answered a lot of my questions.

bfphoto Loc: Houston, TX

bweber wrote:

I would buy the 5DSR. I picked mine up on Friday ... (show quote)

bweber, thanks for reply and your images. Right now I'm leaning toward getting the 5d s r. I really like the function that will let you change the file size when you are shooting.

bfphoto Loc: Houston, TX

SharpShooter wrote:

bf, Your 1D is two generations old and the 5ll is ... (show quote)

Sharpshooter, thanks for the reply...this has been pretty much my thinking. Nice to hear from someone who thinks like I do.

TNmike Loc: NW TN

bfphoto wrote:

TNmike, thanks for the link. It really answered a lot of my questions.

Glad the video helped. I learned some things also. I've been debating on getting the 5DS, 5DSr, or waiting for the rumored 5dIV to go with my 5DIII. TNmike

imagesintime Loc: small town, mid-America

bfphoto wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else is having this dilem... (show quote)

Here's Roger's results. These guy's are unbiased and just report what the test equipment says.

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/06/canon-5ds-and-5ds-r-initial-resolution-tests

DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA

bfphoto wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else is having this dilem... (show quote)

Buy it and try it. You have 30 days to return it if you're not happy with it.

RRS Loc: Not sure

bweber wrote:

I would buy the 5DSR. I picked mine up on Friday ... (show quote)

I've got to ask, were these both taken using a tripod? If hand held I try to keep the shutter speed at least faster then the mm length of the lens. Hard to believe that there would be that much difference in sharpness from the same lens.

bweber Loc: Newton, MA

RRS wrote:

I've got to ask, were these both taken using a tripod? If hand held I try to keep the shutter speed at least faster then the mm length of the lens. Hard to believe that there would be that much difference in sharpness from the same lens.

The images were hand held. This was a quick and dirty comparison. I wanted to try it without any careful planning. They are also minimally post processed. I use Capture 1 for raw conversions. The difference in sharpness is not evident in the full size images. These are cropped to about 25% or less of the original image.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

I would wait to see all the reviews on the new 5D to see if the sensor has less noise or not. If not, then I'd get the 5DIII. As far as sharpness goes, if you shoot raw, you need to sharpen 'all' your images in software anyway. One of the new 5D's has the anti aliasing filter removed for sharper images. Same thing that Nikon did with the D800 line of bodies. You can get the same results with software and you won't have to worry about the other crap that can result from not having that anti aliasing filter.

bfphoto wrote:

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RRS Loc: Not sure

bweber wrote:

The images were hand held. This was a quick and dirty comparison. I wanted to try it without any careful planning. They are also minimally post processed. I use Capture 1 for raw conversions. The difference in sharpness is not evident in the full size images. These are cropped to about 25% or less of the original image.

Thanks for your quick reply. It appears that the lighting changed too. If you could and have the time maybe you could re-shoot the test off a tripod and show the results without any PP other then cropping. If there's really that much difference then that body should sell like hot cakes...Ron

bweber Loc: Newton, MA

RRS wrote:

Thanks for your quick reply. It appears that the lighting changed too. If you could and have the time maybe you could re-shoot the test off a tripod and show the results without any PP other then cropping. If there's really that much difference then that body should sell like hot cakes...Ron

The light changed a little. The exposure went from 1/80s to 1/60. I applied the same post processing to each shot. I will be doing a lot more shooting with the new camera when the weather clears and I will post some images. I rarely use a tripod unless shooting at dawn or sunset, although I used it more with my Pentax 6x7 because it was very heavy. I find that if I use a tripod even for landscapes I am less likely to change my shooting angle or position and I frequently shoot the same scene from different heights or different angles of sight. I would not have purchased this camera if I had to use it on a tripod.

Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH

The second one looks more like a focus problem then a sharpness problem

bweber wrote:

The light changed a little. The exposure went from... (show quote)