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Jun 14, 2015 09:49:20   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
hosh wrote:
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious hobby photographer. Fairly serious meaning I love it and do it fairly frequently. Hobby meaning I'm pretty much the only one who ever looks at my pictures except sometimes my family. Primarily I like to shoot nature and wildlife and candid shots of people. I prefer close-ups and playing with depth of field. I recently used a tripod for the first time to try slow shutter speed on a waterfall. I liked the effect but I hated using a tripod. It felt so stiff and I felt I lost my ability to easily frame the shots and move around the way I normally like to. I'm assuming this would improve if I practiced with it a lot but I was wondering if there are others that just do not like tripods and stick with handheld or is it really a skill I should practice and learn if I want to improve my skills? If, so. what features should I look for in a good tripod?

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
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Unless you can get used to a stiff tripod, best to stick with hand holding.

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Jun 14, 2015 09:53:03   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I'm with you. I feel like I'm tethered when I try to use a tripod. I KNOW the resulting picture will probably be better, but. . . . I'm so accustomed to simply moving - up, down, over, etc. - to get the image, and I hate that slowness of having to move and reset the tripod. I find that I simply don't take the picture frequently because of having to "fight" with the tripod.

I recently purchased a monopod with feet. Although it's not the most secure thing in the world, it does help. And I don't have that awkwardness as I do with a tripod. You might try one and see if it helps. Using a base of any sort does help eliminate camera shake and allows for better images.
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Thank you. I'll try a monopod before I buy anything.

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Jun 14, 2015 09:53:15   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
DWU2 wrote:
And, though perhaps it's implied here, a quick release plate. If you have to thread the camera onto the tripod, I could see why you'd fee encumbered.


Good point.

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Jun 14, 2015 10:03:14   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
imagemeister wrote:
I totally agree with you ! .....but, if you will be shooting with shutter speeds slower than 1/60 - there are really no other reliable options other than a tripod - and a pretty good one at that.

There are ways/techniques/hardware to improve your handholding - one of which is described in my UHH topic - "facial stabilization" - http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-269999-1.html
- which can successfully reduce your shutter speed beyond 1/60 depending on the lens focal length.


Thank you Larry. I checked out the link. That is a very creative solution you came up with. I see you are right in Stuart FL, I am in Hollywood. Do you do any classes or tours?

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Jun 14, 2015 10:06:02   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
Frank W wrote:
It's a mental thing, my shots improved so much I won't take any serious pictures without one, although sometimes I get caught without it. It forces you to slow down and really look at what you want to capture, instead of just running around snapping everything you see, I now come home with half as many pictures to sort and delete and many many more keepers. I've learned to like my tripod.


Thanks Frank. I was afraid that was going to be the answer. Now I have to save up for a good tripod and get to work!

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Jun 14, 2015 10:10:54   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
moonhawk wrote:
A tripod will be an absolute must if you want to do slow shutter speed photography, such as the waterfall you mentioned, especially so if you want that silky look to the water.

Also if you want to do night sky (milky way) shots.

And, if you do get a tripod, there is no substitute for a good one--though you may get away with less if you only shoot very wide angles, the general rule is, buy a very good one once, or two or three cheap ones before you learn. Sadly, by good one, I mean upwards of a grand for tripod and head combined.

Back in the film days, when ISOs were MUCH lower than today--I shot Fujichrome Velvia almost exclusively, at ISO/ASA 50. I never shot without a tripod, because you just couldn't handhold a camera for most of the shots I wanted to take, with a small enough aperture to get good depth of field, especially in evening light.

Today, with the super high ISOs digital cameras are capable of, and with vibration reduction systems becoming increasingly effective, that has changed, and I shoot a lot handheld, especially when shooting wildlife, or from a bouncing sea kayak, or when I'm hiking or biking with friends, and it becomes inconvenient, or rude, to take the time to set up a tripod. I just use VR, and a high enough ISO to get the needed shutter speed.

And I agree, that that gives you greater flexibility in framing a shot. I've been shooting a lot of ultra wide lately, and in that situation a tripod is not very necessary and you need to spend a lot of time carefully composing and experimenting with angles to make the most of those types of lenses. A tripod would be a great hassle in that case.

But, again, there are situations when a tripod is an absolute must, or when you have the time or the patience to set it all up.

Sorry if I've been too long-winded, and I hope I've been some help.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply, it is helpful. I had no idea a good tripod would be that expensive but I think that was part of the problem when I did try one it was a very inexpensive one and difficult to adjust. I'm going to do some research and start saving.

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Jun 14, 2015 10:59:07   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
Mr PC wrote:
You may be able to hand hold at a slower shutter speed than you think if you follow some of the basics in this tutorial. I only use a tripod for panoramas, really serious HDR or other situation like moon shots, where you need to set up and think about what you are doing anyway. Good luck.

http://farbspiel-photo.com/learn/hold-camera-correctly


Thank you that was very helpful. I am astonished by the amount of free information there is out there and by people like you willing to share to help others get better. Thanks!

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Jun 14, 2015 11:06:22   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
hosh wrote:
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious hobby photographer. Fairly serious meaning I love it and do it fairly frequently. Hobby meaning I'm pretty much the only one who ever looks at my pictures except sometimes my family. Primarily I like to shoot nature and wildlife and candid shots of people. I prefer close-ups and playing with depth of field. I recently used a tripod for the first time to try slow shutter speed on a waterfall. I liked the effect but I hated using a tripod. It felt so stiff and I felt I lost my ability to easily frame the shots and move around the way I normally like to. I'm assuming this would improve if I practiced with it a lot but I was wondering if there are others that just do not like tripods and stick with handheld or is it really a skill I should practice and learn if I want to improve my skills? If, so. what features should I look for in a good tripod?

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious ... (show quote)


Shutter speed and lens will dictate if you must use a tripod. Leave it home if your shooting brightly lighted subjects. A monopod seems like a good fit for your problems with a tripod.

Slow shutter speeds turn out very good with tripods & monopods. Continue having fun - always. :) :thumbup:

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Jun 14, 2015 11:08:44   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
hosh wrote:
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious hobby photographer. Fairly serious meaning I love it and do it fairly frequently. Hobby meaning I'm pretty much the only one who ever looks at my pictures except sometimes my family. Primarily I like to shoot nature and wildlife and candid shots of people. I prefer close-ups and playing with depth of field. I recently used a tripod for the first time to try slow shutter speed on a waterfall. I liked the effect but I hated using a tripod. It felt so stiff and I felt I lost my ability to easily frame the shots and move around the way I normally like to. I'm assuming this would improve if I practiced with it a lot but I was wondering if there are others that just do not like tripods and stick with handheld or is it really a skill I should practice and learn if I want to improve my skills? If, so. what features should I look for in a good tripod?

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious ... (show quote)


You will need to find a way to incorporate the tripod to almost every shot for landscape and for most wildlife photography. With a tripod, I can always get to base ISO 64-100-200. This is one of the important keys for good photography. The base ISO gives me the best image without noise. With a low ISO you going to have to use strategy to get the appropriate aperture and shutter speed for the shot you need. Every shot is different and so are the settings. In low light, mornings and evenings, the tripod is a must. I can't hold f/16-22, 1/25 of second or slower at ISO 64 with a polarizer on a static images let alone one with movement.

Most photographers, use their camera at handheld and work the scene for the proper perspective and composition BEFORE they set up their tripod. I suggest you do the same. Also, learn to shoot high and low, left an right. Everyone can see at eye level. Use your tripod to give them a perspective of that which they normally can't see and your image will be unique.

Nikon D810, 16-35, ISO 64, at f/11, 2 seconds, tripod in the water with cable release, PP PS and Nik Silver Efexs Pro
Nikon D810, 16-35, ISO 64, at f/11, 2 seconds, tri...

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Jun 14, 2015 11:10:54   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Except for indoors, I rarely use a tripod, as it often only hinders my mobility and thereby my creativity. For example, I often like shooting from up in a tree, low on the ground, on a stairway, on a steep slope, off the beaten path. Carrying a tripod often slows me down, gets in the way, and I'm then less inclined to explore alternative, interesting possibilities of perspective. Of course no tripod means not being able to do long exposures, but I don't really care all that much for long exposure photography anyway. Mobility is far more important to me.
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Thank you. Sounds like we shoot in similar ways. I can see where a tripod would be useful in certain situations but I'm not sure I shoot that way often enough to make it worthwhile to invest in a good one.

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Jun 14, 2015 11:13:24   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
Mark7829 wrote:
You will need to find a way to incorporate the tripod to almost every shot for landscape and for most wildlife photography. With a tripod, I can always get to base ISO 64-100-200. This is one of the important keys for good photography. The base ISO gives me the best image without noise. With a low ISO you going to have to use strategy to get the appropriate aperture and shutter speed for the shot you need. Every shot is different and so are the settings. In low light, mornings and evenings, the tripod is a must. I can't hold f/16-22, 1/25 of second or slower at ISO 64 with a polarizer on a static images let alone one with movement.

Most photographers, use their camera at handheld and work the scene for the proper perspective and composition BEFORE they set up their tripod. I suggest you do the same. Also, learn to shoot high and low, left an right. Everyone can see at eye level. Use your tripod to give them a perspective of that which they normally can't see and your image will be unique.
You will need to find a way to incorporate the tri... (show quote)


Thank you. That image alone makes me want to learn to use a tripod. Really gorgeous! I appreciate your comments.

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Jun 14, 2015 11:14:14   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
tomeveritt wrote:
Shutter speed and lens will dictate if you must use a tripod. Leave it home if your shooting brightly lighted subjects. A monopod seems like a good fit for your problems with a tripod.

Slow shutter speeds turn out very good with tripods & monopods. Continue having fun - always. :) :thumbup:


Thank you.

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Jun 14, 2015 11:15:35   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
One thing that may make using a tripod easier, for still photography, is to use a ball head. It is my preference.


Thank you Richard

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Jun 14, 2015 11:18:50   #
hosh Loc: Hollywood FL
 
ole sarg wrote:
There are tripod rules:

1. Never collapse it

2. Never put it away

3. Always leave it in an accessible spot

4. Always change the shirt you hang on it


OK, I get it, invest in a good tripod and learn how to use it! I like the rules except you lost me on #4??

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Jun 14, 2015 12:10:34   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
hosh wrote:
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious hobby photographer. Fairly serious meaning I love it and do it fairly frequently. Hobby meaning I'm pretty much the only one who ever looks at my pictures except sometimes my family. Primarily I like to shoot nature and wildlife and candid shots of people. I prefer close-ups and playing with depth of field. I recently used a tripod for the first time to try slow shutter speed on a waterfall. I liked the effect but I hated using a tripod. It felt so stiff and I felt I lost my ability to easily frame the shots and move around the way I normally like to. I'm assuming this would improve if I practiced with it a lot but I was wondering if there are others that just do not like tripods and stick with handheld or is it really a skill I should practice and learn if I want to improve my skills? If, so. what features should I look for in a good tripod?

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
This is my first question. I am a fairly serious ... (show quote)


Heres a little gadget I use...

Have used it with a d7100 and Tam 150-600 with great results...less that $20 from Barska...the other great thing is the only finger on the camera body is on the shutter...so you don't accidently push little buttons you don't want to



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