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Apr 3, 2012 00:12:08   #
Candy
 
Thanks Doug, appreciate your effort.candy.

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Apr 3, 2012 00:35:54   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Iowegan wrote:
In my situation, it wasn't a matter of injury, or, loss to me, financially speaking.

My concerns, and I truly believe the woman who owns the photo studio understood them, is that to claim ownership, via pasting your business name or copyright to an image you didn't create, is, at best, unethical.
Trying to sell someone else's work and, or, talent for your own gain, is conversion of ownership, at least as I understand it.

I didn't lose any money because I wasn't trying to sell that talent, or whatever you wish to call it. I objected to her claiming she did the work, when clearly she didn't.

I made no demands of payment, I just asked that she either remove my picture(s), OR, place my name with credit of same. That's all. I wasn't trying to pinch her for an easy buck.

She removed the picture(s), and that's fine.

Again, I believe she was unaware of the situation, and got caught in something she hadn't complete control of at the time.

BTW, she's a real nice person, and is a pretty good photographer. I see a good future for her. :)
In my situation, it wasn't a matter of injury, or,... (show quote)


I can't even tell you how many times that story has been told. "My master used them as place holders, it shouldn't have gone live, it was an accident.". I know of at least 5 such stories in the last year (from my ladies photography forum).

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Apr 3, 2012 06:32:32   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Laws used to be written to protect people and their rights.
Now they are written primarily to make banana-peel lawyers rich. So greedy are they that the average American cannot afford to use their services, and a simple Judge ruling does not apply when you're up against the gold.
Even the BATF and EPA and others use these tactics knowing there's no way you can defend yourself properly without tons of money.
...Thanks to the American Bar Association, lawyers, and politicians.

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Apr 3, 2012 08:46:42   #
Judie5 Loc: Jersey Shore
 
I do keep my images on my memory cards. The proof is in the pudding.....or in this case, the memory card.

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Apr 3, 2012 09:02:11   #
shutterfly Loc: Indiana
 
donbet31 wrote:
If you press alt and the #'s 0169 on your computer,while in photoshop elements,(text mode)it will give you the copyright symbol.


Good to know!! Thank for the info

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Apr 3, 2012 09:10:21   #
shutterfly Loc: Indiana
 
shutterfly wrote:
donbet31 wrote:
If you press alt and the #'s 0169 on your computer,while in photoshop elements,(text mode)it will give you the copyright symbol.


Good to know!! Thank for the info


Just tried it no go??? Could you give us a step by step instruction please. Thank you in advance.

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Apr 3, 2012 09:17:58   #
Don Butler Loc: NW Pennsylvania
 
Hold the ALT key while you key in the numbers.
Many other special symbols available in the character map. Go to START- -all programs - accessories - system tools - character map. Click on a character and at the bottom right of the screen there is the ALT+ code.
You must, however be using a program that allows setting alpha-numeric characters such as coreldraw or word processor like Word.
regards,
don

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Apr 3, 2012 09:31:45   #
Iowegan
 
MWAC wrote:

I can't even tell you how many times that story has been told. "My master used them as place holders, it shouldn't have gone live, it was an accident.". I know of at least 5 such stories in the last year (from my ladies photography forum).


Yep, but I do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, even when enough things tell you, you're right on the mark.
That she removed them, was all I asked.

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Apr 3, 2012 09:54:02   #
Candy
 
Hi Ray, I thought that was the case that the law was made to line the pockets of lawyers to make them rich, we are just regular people who love sharing our
Photographs and hope to make other people enjoy the beauty we see in the photographs we shoot and be knd enough not to steal them. Perhaps they are the jealous types!

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Apr 5, 2012 20:15:34   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Don Butler wrote:
Hold the ALT key while you key in the numbers.
Many other special symbols available in the character map. Go to START- -all programs - accessories - system tools - character map. Click on a character and at the bottom right of the screen there is the ALT+ code.
You must, however be using a program that allows setting alpha-numeric characters such as coreldraw or word processor like Word.
regards,
don


Also the font being used must contain that symbol. There are many fonts created that do NOT include all of the lesser used characters.

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Apr 5, 2012 20:47:25   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Nevada Chuck wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Nevada Chuck wrote:
A couple writers above have correctly pointed out that any creative work, be it a novel's manuscriipt or a musical work or a photograph, is considered under US law to be copywrited at the moment of it's creation. They have also pointed out that the tricky part comes in proving you are the creator.

An old trick among garage tinkerers/inventors is to make detailed drawings of the thingy they've just created and mail those drawings to themselves by certified mail. Sign the envelope across the seal area of the flap. When the mail arrives, put it somewhere safe and keep it against the day when the envelope can be opened in court, preferably by the judge.

Something similar could be done if you have two email addresses, or a trusted friend or family. If you email the photo to yourself at your second email address, there would be a record with you ISP, as there would be if you sent it to the family member or friend.
A couple writers above have correctly pointed out ... (show quote)


There is no provision in copyright law regarding any such type of protection. Poor man's copyright is therefore not a substitute for registration. According to section 408 of the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976, registration of a work with the Copyright Office is not a prerequisite for copyright protection.
It is copyrighted in the U.S. as soon as it is made. Getting paid for it's use is hard because you must prove that the offending party has profited from your work and that it was not used for educational or comparison as in a critique. Read about DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) it might help.
quote=Nevada Chuck A couple writers above have co... (show quote)


I think that's what I said; it's considered copywrited the moment its made. What I didn't say is that a poor man's copywrite is a pre-requisite for protection. The p oint I was making is that, in the same way that an oral contract is equally as binding as a written one, the fly in the ointment comes in proving the existence of the contract. The same would apply in the case of copywrite. You need to be able to show that you are the creator.
quote=jimni2001 quote=Nevada Chuck A couple writ... (show quote)


The old trick of sending one through the mail to yourself, not opening it and signing over the seal should work in a court of law according to a lawyer I consulted about 5 yrs. ago.

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Apr 5, 2012 22:24:03   #
Dietxanadu
 
wlgoode wrote:
Nevada Chuck wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Nevada Chuck wrote:
A couple writers above have correctly pointed out that any creative work, be it a novel's manuscriipt or a musical work or a photograph, is considered under US law to be copywrited at the moment of it's creation. They have also pointed out that the tricky part comes in proving you are the creator.

An old trick among garage tinkerers/inventors is to make detailed drawings of the thingy they've just created and mail those drawings to themselves by certified mail. Sign the envelope across the seal area of the flap. When the mail arrives, put it somewhere safe and keep it against the day when the envelope can be opened in court, preferably by the judge.

Something similar could be done if you have two email addresses, or a trusted friend or family. If you email the photo to yourself at your second email address, there would be a record with you ISP, as there would be if you sent it to the family member or friend.
A couple writers above have correctly pointed out ... (show quote)


There is no provision in copyright law regarding any such type of protection. Poor man's copyright is therefore not a substitute for registration. According to section 408 of the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976, registration of a work with the Copyright Office is not a prerequisite for copyright protection.
It is copyrighted in the U.S. as soon as it is made. Getting paid for it's use is hard becauIse you must prove that the offending party has profited from your work and that it was not used for educational or comparison as in a critique. Read about DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) it might help.
quote=Nevada Chuck A couple writers above have co... (show quote)


I think that's what I said; it's considered copywrited the moment its made. What I didn't say is that a poor man's copywrite is a pre-requisite for protection. The p oint I was making is that, in the same way that an oral contract is equally as binding as a written one, the fly in the ointment comes in proving the existence of the contract. The same would apply in the case of copywrite. You need to be able to show that you are the creator.
quote=jimni2001 quote=Nevada Chuck A couple writ... (show quote)


The old trick of sending one through the mail to yourself, not opening it and signing over the seal should work in a court of law according to a lawyer I consulted about 5 yrs. ago.
quote=Nevada Chuck quote=jimni2001 quote=Nevada... (show quote)


I would pay someone to use one of my photo's

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