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May 30, 2015 08:15:33   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
dalematt wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their input.

I would wait for Win10, but my computer needs replacing now. Yesterday, I spent about 20 - 30 minutes actual computer time, the rest restarting, fixing, cursing.

In my original post, I should have included my financial status statement LOL. I thought that I might have to go to the hospital for cardiac arrest when I saw the prices of the computers some of you suggested re features.

Anyway, I have pretty much decided what to get. It has 6 GB RAM, but everything else is as suggested and it fits into my budget.
Thanks to everyone for their input. br br I would... (show quote)


Hint:

If you get a Windows 7 system with 6GB of ram, be sure you get a 64 bit windows version, else you will only ever be able to see and use below 4 GB of ram.

32 bit system means access to only 4 gb of installed ram, no matter how much ram the computer has hardware wise.

64 bit chip & Operating System mean access to memory above 4 GB.

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May 30, 2015 08:17:16   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Because I use my computer mostly for processing photos and because I do not use my laptop extensively outside of the home when it came time to purchase a new computer I purchased a new iMac and am totally happy with it. I got the 21.5" all in one and believe me it is plenty large, the 27" would probably be too large for my desk.

I still have a usable windows laptop, but for my daily needs at home and for photo processing the iMac is the bomb.

PS, Photoshop CC and Lightroom for $10/month is a worthy addition to any new computer that you decide on.
Because I use my computer mostly for processing ph... (show quote)


Blurryeyed... how's it going in Daytona? I'm still under the weather but improving. I have a 72" iMac with an additional 20" screen. Love it. 16 gigs of ram. Cheers, Carl

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May 30, 2015 08:24:33   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
Get the Mac 27 and as much ram as you can afford.
I believe it is about $2000 now base. I have been working on Mac's for years. This computer is a joy to work with. I dump 40 gigs of video in and edit. Have numerous external drives to work off of. The activity on this machine over 3-4 years shows the robust use they can deal with. The 21 is OK but the difference with the 27's image is significant. The monitor is also close to true. I do not calibrate for video and photo's but believe the monitor is good.
PS Unless you are building a PC custom I would not go near Microsoft software until OS "10." Recently bought a cheap HP to check movie files created on Mac etc. The experience with setting up the HP and Windows 8.1 is horrible. Good luck.
Get the Mac 27 and as much ram as you can afford. ... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 30, 2015 09:11:15   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
dalematt wrote:
My current computer has been having a lot of problems lately. I get it fixed and not long after, I have problems again.

So, I am looking at getting a new one.

For the computer experts out there, what features should I be looking at as far as photography goes? For example, RAM, processor, etc.

I do not play games (well, solitaire at times).

I currently have a laptop hooked up to a monitor, but I don't need to have a laptop. A desktop would be quite alright.

Thanks for any help.

Dale
My current computer has been having a lot of probl... (show quote)


I've never been happier with doing photo processing than after I got an iMac 27". Just get as much RAM as possible. Also, think about a SSD for OS and Apps and a second drive for storing photos.

Additionally, I'd get an additional external drive for backups.
--Bob

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May 30, 2015 09:11:56   #
wteffey Loc: Ocala, FL USA
 
If you have a modest budget, just about any off-the-shelf PC will run Elements just fine. If it does run slow close any other programs running in the background. I have found that even my modest PC is most often waiting for me, rather than I wait for it. RAW files might take a few seconds to load, but once loaded edit just fine.

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May 30, 2015 09:33:57   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Bob Yankle wrote:
Strangely enough, one of the best machines you can buy for editing photographs is what is referred to as a "gaming" machine .


Yep, my ASUS gamer has 32 GB ram and I recently upgraded to a 1TB SSD. Expensive but worth it.

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May 30, 2015 10:19:59   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
See if you can find someone to assemble one for you - then you can get exactly what you want. Jerry recommended some good basics: Intel i7 processor (although I built one with an AMD 8-core processor that is very, very capable), SSD drive (solid-state drive) for the C drive. I have a large HDD onboard for backup as well as an external backup. 16GB RAM is nice - probably not needed so much with an SSD. You want to have a DVD R/W drive, but consider a BluRay R/W drive (about $80) - BluRay discs can store 25GB of files. You also want to get a card reader in a front bay for easy access. You probably don't need a super high-end graphics card if you aren't going to be doing video. You can still get a Windows 7 Operating System if you prefer that...

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May 30, 2015 10:35:09   #
stbg1951 Loc: Lewes, DE
 
Eurolux wrote:
If you haven't pulled the trigger yet, you might opt to go with a "Windows 7" based operating system rather than an "8". The Windows 8 systems are very different than what you have used (translation = hard to learn) and you can easily upgrade to the new Windows 10 operating system when it is released.

Pushing from 6GB to 8GB of RAM would also be noticeably better. If you can manage it. Best of luck.


I use a product Start8 from Stardock. It makes Window 8 ack just like Win 7. It's only $4.99. The desktop can be set up just like Win 7 and you have the option to toggle to the standard win 8 interface from the good old start button. Then Ctl-Tab and your back to the Win 7 style interface. Here's he link to see about it.
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download.asp

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May 30, 2015 10:46:09   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
travelwp wrote:
Yep, my ASUS gamer has 32 GB ram and I recently upgraded to a 1TB SSD. Expensive but worth it.


Way overkill. A large photo file is 20-40MB - one one-thousandth of your memory capacity. I am not aware of any programs that require so much RAM, and computers use what is called "virtual memory" - if there is not enough RAM, they swap parts of the program back and forth between the hard drive and the RAM - which, when your programs are on an SSD, is a very fast operation. I do photo processing on a laptop with an SSD and 8GB of memory and nothing ever slows down. Most people do not use their SSD to store data files and photos, but have a regular HDD for that purpose, since SSD's are much more expensive than an HDD. So most people will have a 250GB SSD for the operating system and any programs that you want to run fast, and an HDD - like 1TB - for their photos and data files. The system above might be ideal for running fast-action video games, but really is not needed for photo processing.

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May 30, 2015 10:46:26   #
OldEarl Loc: Northeast Kansas
 
Being somewhat in the same boat I have been exploring the availabilities. At the current time, your minimum (in Windows) should be an i5 with 8 gigs of RAM (or whatever they call it these days). It can be expanded to 32 gig. I am also looking into a partition so I can boot in either windows or Linux. Linux is safer on the net and GIMP and Raw Therapee work better in that platform.

I have been consulting computer savvy friends and have also had advice from every bias in the book. I anticipate using Linux except for my scanner and my tax program which are Windows proprietary. I am pushing back my acquisition of a Df by at least a year, but I think I can do on Provia and the scanner until then.

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May 30, 2015 11:19:29   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
sb wrote:
Way overkill.


I totally agree. It's kind of like, do you need a $7000 camera? does it take better pictures? No !

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May 30, 2015 11:40:51   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
dalematt wrote:
My current computer has been having a lot of problems lately. I get it fixed and not long after, I have problems again.

So, I am looking at getting a new one.

For the computer experts out there, what features should I be looking at as far as photography goes? For example, RAM, processor, etc.

I do not play games (well, solitaire at times).

I currently have a laptop hooked up to a monitor, but I don't need to have a laptop. A desktop would be quite alright.

Thanks for any help.

Dale
My current computer has been having a lot of probl... (show quote)


I have two Gateways and we love them. I've owned several different brands but only had major problems with HP. Good luck

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May 30, 2015 14:49:32   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
Our house has 3 i5 processors (CPUs) -- not ideal. Today's i7s have more on-board buffer space than i5s. Faster than RAM, that alone is a reason to get any i7 instead of any i5. If PS and LR have repetitive calculations as I imagine they do, esp. for large .dng files, this is relevant.

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May 30, 2015 17:29:31   #
Scubie Loc: Brunswick Georgia
 
Make sure you get either a HP or Toshiba...get as much ram as you can and at least an 8 gig HD
As far as retoring your computer go to system restore and try that. You will be able to download and repair your files without losing any photo's etc.
dalematt wrote:
My current computer has been having a lot of problems lately. I get it fixed and not long after, I have problems again.

So, I am looking at getting a new one.

For the computer experts out there, what features should I be looking at as far as photography goes? For example, RAM, processor, etc.

I do not play games (well, solitaire at times).

I currently have a laptop hooked up to a monitor, but I don't need to have a laptop. A desktop would be quite alright.

Thanks for any help.

Dale
My current computer has been having a lot of probl... (show quote)

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May 30, 2015 18:54:48   #
Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA
 
dalematt wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their input.

I would wait for Win10, but my computer needs replacing now. Yesterday, I spent about 20 - 30 minutes actual computer time, the rest restarting, fixing, cursing.

In my original post, I should have included my financial status statement LOL. I thought that I might have to go to the hospital for cardiac arrest when I saw the prices of the computers some of you suggested re features.

Anyway, I have pretty much decided what to get. It has 6 GB RAM, but everything else is as suggested and it fits into my budget.
Thanks to everyone for their input. br br I would... (show quote)


For your and everyone else's benefit; I have heard that Windows 10 will be a free upgrade for all Windows 7 and Windows 8 users for a year after Windows 10 is released.

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