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May 19, 2015 09:02:45   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
Go with the 5d. Otherwise, you might buy the 50D and have buyers remorse the first time you see someone with the 5DIII. I have the 5DIII and love it. I will upgrade to the 5D4 when it comes out. I also considered the 5DS with 50 mp, but the guy at the camera shop convinced me it's better to have the 5D4 if and when it comes out.

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May 19, 2015 11:44:42   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
Audi57 wrote:
Hi Hoggers
Just would like a few thoughts on changing my 50D to a 5D full frame what are the advantages and is it really worth the extra cash?.


Are you a serious photographer? If you want better images, you go full frame. The low light capabilities are significant. Whether you can afford it or not, you need to know their is a difference in full frame and it is visible on any size image capturing more detail in the shadows and highlights. Once you go full frame, you will not regret it. I know of no one having gone full frame and regretting it. The only ones who will tell you differently are those that haven't. Full frame DSLR are cheaper than ever and they will continue to drop in price until crop sensor DSLR's are eliminated possibly rendering your investment in lenses obsolete.

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May 19, 2015 13:04:04   #
ldef Loc: Chicago
 
Go full frame. I did it about a year ago. My principal reason was for the low light capabilities. Besides the money, however, I have found the camera to be a bit less forgiving than my old D80. Maybe I am more attuned to the 'possibilities' or maybe the camera is way more sensitive. But I find myself taken my hobby a lot more seriously and enjoying it.

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May 19, 2015 13:35:28   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Audi57 wrote:
Full frame or not


Not.

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May 19, 2015 15:30:12   #
KD Stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
Well here is my 2cents:
Have always been an admirer of Civil War photos-- Remember asking my Photo class teacher why 150+ year old photos looked so darn good --- His response was that it certainty had nothing to do with the equipment -- in that the camera's didn't even have shutters, or L-Lenses & that the ISO rating's on the glass plates used were somewhere between 8 & 12 --- When they were good -- They were darn good due of course to the photographers many skill's & in his opinion of equal if not greater importance to the very large Formats employed ---- A larger format collects more light -- All those extra packages of information called Photons --- Now don't get me wrong pixels are important , but starting out with an image containing more collected photon provided information combined of course with your skills just may provide for a better photo
So I suggest if you can afford it --- Why Not Go full frame

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May 19, 2015 18:12:12   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
The 5D MKIII is a huge step up from the 50D. And the price is coming down since the 2 huge megapixel versions are coming out next month.

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May 19, 2015 22:39:39   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Audi57 wrote:
Hi Hoggers
Just would like a few thoughts on changing my 50D to a 5D full frame what are the advantages and is it really worth the extra cash?.

Don't really know if it would be worth the extra cash, as I don't have any means of comparison, I never had any crop sensor cameras of any kind, but I do love my full frame cameras ( they kept me a happy camper). But I don't know if you will see a whole lot of difference.

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May 20, 2015 09:01:59   #
Audi57 Loc: Bedford England.
 
Thanks folks for all your input it's much appreciated, I have been looking at buying a 5d mark 2 with low shutter count initially would this be a good move ?

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May 20, 2015 09:06:18   #
Audi57 Loc: Bedford England.
 
boberic wrote:
A few questions which only you can answer. Does your current camera meet all your needs? Do you print larger than 8X10? How important is 3+grand to you? Will your current lenses do justice to the pro level camera? Is your desire for the new gear just GAS? Do you sell your work? Will your wife never let you off the hook for "pissing away" all that cash? These are just a few things to make your decision more challenging. Good luck-whatever you decide to do.


Hi boberic well I like to take as good a photograph as possible and have seen some really good results with my present camera but would like more scope that a full frame would give me.

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May 20, 2015 15:42:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
KD Stern wrote:
Well here is my 2cents:
Have always been an admirer of Civil War photos-- Remember asking my Photo class teacher why 150+ year old photos looked so darn good --- His response was that it certainty had nothing to do with the equipment -- in that the camera's didn't even have shutters, or L-Lenses & that the ISO rating's on the glass plates used were somewhere between 8 & 12 --- When they were good -- They were darn good due of course to the photographers many skill's & in his opinion of equal if not greater importance to the very large Formats employed ---- A larger format collects more light -- All those extra packages of information called Photons --- Now don't get me wrong pixels are important , but starting out with an image containing more collected photon provided information combined of course with your skills just may provide for a better photo
So I suggest if you can afford it --- Why Not Go full frame
Well here is my 2cents: br Have always been an adm... (show quote)


Also the photos were not enlarged as a rule. The tin type was the direct image and most other prints were contact prints. It would be amazing to see the "detail" of a contact print of new cameras. It would be the size is so small none of the problems could be seen with out an aid.

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May 20, 2015 16:57:43   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Also the photos were not enlarged as a rule. The tin type was the direct image and most other prints were contact prints. It would be amazing to see the "detail" of a contact print of new cameras.



:thumbup:

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May 20, 2015 17:12:13   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Audi57 wrote:
Hi Hoggers
Just would like a few thoughts on changing my 50D to a 5D full frame what are the advantages and is it really worth the extra cash?.


Depends on what you shoot. If you shoot action, I'd stick with a crop camera.

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May 20, 2015 17:14:38   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Mark7829 wrote:
Are you a serious photographer? If you want better images, you go full frame. The low light capabilities are significant. Whether you can afford it or not, you need to know their is a difference in full frame and it is visible on any size image capturing more detail in the shadows and highlights. Once you go full frame, you will not regret it. I know of no one having gone full frame and regretting it. The only ones who will tell you differently are those that haven't. Full frame DSLR are cheaper than ever and they will continue to drop in price until crop sensor DSLR's are eliminated possibly rendering your investment in lenses obsolete.
Are you a serious photographer? If you want better... (show quote)


I don't necessarily buy that you have to go full frame to get better images. I have a friend who shoots Canon crop cameras with primarily the 100-400L and gets fantastic photos. My D7100 gave me great photos right out of the box. I also have a D800, so I have both.

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May 20, 2015 21:45:22   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
IMO if you are an amateur and you don't need the improved performance at very high iso's, and if you don't make very large prints, FF is a waste of money. On the other hand, if you want one and you can afford it, get it.

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May 21, 2015 10:02:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
MarkD wrote:
IMO if you are an amateur and you don't need the improved performance at very high iso's, and if you don't make very large prints, FF is a waste of money. On the other hand, if you want one and you can afford it, get it.


It's not just a matter of saying, "I want a full frame camera." It's also saying.....I'm going to commit to the lenses that a full frame camera requires. You can't buy a D810 and not buy gold ring lenses. You could, but your lenses would not match your camera.
There are some lenses that compete with the gold rings. For instance, the 85mm f1.8 will compete with the 85mm f1.4.

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