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May 16, 2015 11:40:41   #
Ray Bullock Loc: Redding, CA
 
I spent one year in Nam and I will never forget it. It was rough on a lot of our guys and gals who served but we must not forget how hard it was on our loved ones back home.

I was lucky enough to have come home fairly safe at least for the time being. My wife weighed 115 lbs. when I went over and 95 lbs. when I got back. All from worry....but at least she got me back.

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May 16, 2015 11:45:07   #
Violameister Loc: michigan
 
I served as an Army officer in Vietnam 1965-66 as an adviser to the Vietnamese 9th infantry division in the Mekong delta. Part of my job was to visit outlying villages almost daily on MEDCAP (Medical Civilian Assistance Program) missions to treat illness and injuries, and evacuate those too ill to manage via helicopter to hospitals. As a result I got to know many Vietnamese, both civilian and military. I support the intent of the war, but not the way politicians (and some high ranking military) eventually waged it.

I highly recommend an excellent book that came out a few years ago:
"Why Vietnam Matters--an eyewitness account of lessons not learned" by Rufus Phillips. Available from Amazon and others.

Interesting sidelight: The Hoa Hao Buddhists were strongly anti communist (and had been strongly anti French in earlier times). Their main city Long Xuyen was the only place where I as an American soldier could safely walk the streets alone at any hour of the day or night. They as a group were treated very badly by the communist authorities after 1975 and became a large proportion of the "boat people" who eventually came to the US.

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May 16, 2015 11:46:12   #
MontanaTrace
 
Thanks for the post. We get more respect today, then we did then. USAF 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968.

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May 16, 2015 12:07:06   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
bcheary wrote:
Going the e-mail rounds.
We hold a deep debt of gratitude to all our veterans, deceased and living and to those men and women still serving our country.


A little history most people will never know.


Veterans Statistics off the Vietnam Memorial Wall.

There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010.

The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 57 years since the first casualty.

The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth , Mass. Listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956. His name is listed on the Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965.

There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall.

39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger.

8,283 were just 19 years old.

The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old.

12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old.

5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old.

One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old.

997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam ..

1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam ..

31 sets of brothers are on the Wall.

Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons.

54 soldiers attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school.

8 Women are on the Wall, Nursing the wounded.

244 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War; 153 of them are on the Wall.

Beallsville, Ohio with a population of 475 lost 6 of her sons.

West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation. There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall.

The Marines of Morenci - They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest . And in the patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home.

The Buddies of Midvale - LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam . In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed. LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.

The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 deaths.

The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred.

For most Americans who read this they will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters. There are no noble wars, just noble warriors.
Going the e-mail rounds. br We hold a deep debt o... (show quote)


Every time I see this list I tear up. We all lost friends and patriots in that one and all the wars, peace actions??? and humanitarian missions???. It was a weird time in my life as it was the best of times and the worst nightmare all in one. CVA 61 USS Ranger, USN Spec Ops, River Boats and Shore Patrol stateside not to mention one hell of a screw up from 62 to 78. We can never see this enough, thanks for posting BC.

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May 16, 2015 12:08:05   #
ddetloff Loc: Fair Haven, MI
 
GeneB wrote:
Speaking of Hanoi Jane. Who said "to this reporter we cannot win in Vietnam"?

How do you view this individual?


She makes a good urinal target at all the veterans organizations. Her time in hell can't come soon enough.

- Don



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May 16, 2015 12:19:04   #
stephgc Loc: Texas
 
Thanks for the post. Having served during that time I lost two friends. I often think of them and what might have been had they lived.

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May 16, 2015 12:23:43   #
MontanaTrace
 
ddetloff wrote:
She makes a good urinal target at all the veterans organizations. Her time in hell can't come soon enough.

- Don


There are few people I really hate. This is one....... forever.

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May 16, 2015 12:35:15   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
ddetloff wrote:
She makes a good urinal target at all the veterans organizations. Her time in hell can't come soon enough.

- Don


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
One of the greatest traitors of the Commie Cong times. Her, Kerry and a few others from that time period need to hurry their departure to a better place. And now Hanoi Jane is being resurrected by the progressive leftist just to annoy intelligent people.

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May 16, 2015 13:03:44   #
dragonswing Loc: Pa
 
I have seen the traveling wall twice. On my first visitI was surprised to find out that if a soldier was injured in Nam, then died after being transferred to a hospital outside of Nam, he/she was not placed on the wall unless their families petitioned the people in charge to have their case reviewed. That is sad!!!

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May 16, 2015 13:32:16   #
GeneS Loc: Glendale,AZ
 
And no one lists the men killed before 1965, and there were a lot of us there. Those killed are still classified.

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May 16, 2015 13:40:38   #
Bobgood1 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
That should be required reading in ALL High Schools, in the USA. bb

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May 16, 2015 13:47:50   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
GeneS wrote:
And no one lists the men killed before 1965, and there were a lot of us there. Those killed are still classified.


We weren't supposed to be there before 65. For some political reasons our gubernut peoples don't want you to know we were there since the late 50s. My first "visit" was in late 63 and a lot of the younger and older people say that couldn't happen as we did not get involved with the "Illegal War" police action until 65 at the earliest.

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May 16, 2015 14:11:17   #
GeneS Loc: Glendale,AZ
 
I to was there in 63 and 64. Da Nang I corps

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May 16, 2015 14:12:04   #
kenpic Loc: Edmonds, WA
 
I flew 154 combat support missions out of Da Nang over a three year period; and have 22 squadron mates on the wall.

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May 16, 2015 14:25:00   #
Bobgood1 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
All should read the book " A Nation of Sheep." I forget the Author. I read it back in the early '60's. It is about the French, trying to help the Vietnamese. Yes, we were there before '65. I have relatives that are still there.

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