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May 10, 2015 06:42:51   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Delderby wrote:
Gene and rpavich
Yes, on camera flash pics are usually awful. But such flash is not powerful, and bending and / or diffusing the light has sometimes helped me by providing a second or third light source, to add to what for me has to be natural light. I don't do enough portraits to warrant investing in studio lights.


And no matter what, it still is coming "on axis" which looks "at best" lame, and "at worst" horrible.

Even buying a $50.00 YN560 manual flash and rotating it's head to the side to bounce towards a wall or white cardboard and thus provide some soft side light is preferable.

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May 10, 2015 06:43:08   #
heyjoe Loc: cincinnati ohio
 
the time of day is important i like to shoot early before 9:30 or late after 6:00

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May 10, 2015 07:00:30   #
PhotoshooterNJ Loc: NJ
 
rpavich wrote:
You're not ready.

If you can't figure out how to pose folks and what clothes to put them in and how to set your camera, then you aren't ready.

IF you want "payback to be exceptional" then go buy the video set "Lights Posing Execution!" by Roberto Valenzuela. (CreativeLive)

Watch the videos a few times, get family members or neighbors to be guinea pigs for at least a month or two, watch the videos again and again and let the principles sink in so that they are second nature....and THEN do this for her.

PS: Gene is right. Lighting, posing, it's all a package and you aren't getting solid advice if folks are telling you to use your on camera flash.
You're not ready. br br If you can't figure out h... (show quote)



Sounds a little excessive for someone looking to do someone a favor with some portraits. Especially since she is doing it this weekend.

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May 10, 2015 07:06:22   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
PhotoshooterNJ wrote:
Sounds a little excessive for someone looking to do someone a favor with some portraits. Especially since she is doing it this weekend.


Not to me.

She said her results should be "exceptional" because the person is exceptional.

I don't think it's excessive to tell her to wait until she's ready.

I've turned down more than a few offers of portraiture because I know my limitations and I know what my current gear is suited to (not portraiture)

There's no shame in saying that a person isn't ready. I think it's more detrimental to give someone the impression that they can produce "exceptional" when they are asking about what settings to set their camera on.

In any case...why not forget being the sheriff of the forums and let her decide if my comments are excessive or welcome?

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May 10, 2015 07:19:18   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
rpavich wrote:
And no matter what, it still is coming "on axis" which looks "at best" lame, and "at worst" horrible.

Even buying a $50.00 YN560 manual flash and rotating it's head to the side to bounce towards a wall or white cardboard and thus provide some soft side light is preferable.


Absolutely - you will see from my first post that we are in total agreement -especially about bouncing light. :)

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May 10, 2015 07:22:27   #
Stage Light Loc: Northeast
 
BeachLady wrote:
I'm doing a shoot as a surprise for a special lady - of her 2 grandchildren. 17 & 18 years, boy & girl. Would love some suggestions for poses for this pair of siblings...going to be on beach, on boardwalk, and inside old whitewashed brick building...IF THIS TROPICAL STORM ISN'T STILL KICKING OUR BUTT TOMORROW!! I don't want too mushy or too silly. Found some ideas on google, but nothing that I LOVE. Ideas? Examples? (and they're black, so again, suggestions about the type of lighting or reflectors to add? I've not photographed black people - and in natural light I know that there are some tricks I need to apply to get BEAUTIFUL results!) She does so many nice things for everyone at work, I want payback to be exceptional!! I asked them to dress SIMILARLY for one (maybe jeans, and white or peach tops), and will also do some in cap & gown for girl. I don't have a flash, other than my "on camera" (Nikon 7100, and a 5100) So...suggestions about settings, please!! And I do plan to take a couple of white boards and my shiny car window reflectors to help bounce a little light.
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The highlights are the important thing on dark skin; do not blow out the highlights.

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May 10, 2015 07:24:04   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
If it's warm weather - mop the brow.

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May 10, 2015 09:19:59   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
BeachLady wrote:
I'm doing a shoot as a surprise for a special lady - of her 2 grandchildren. 17 & 18 years, boy & girl. Would love some suggestions for poses for this pair of siblings...going to be on beach, on boardwalk, and inside old whitewashed brick building...IF THIS TROPICAL STORM ISN'T STILL KICKING OUR BUTT TOMORROW!! I don't want too mushy or too silly. Found some ideas on google, but nothing that I LOVE. Ideas? Examples? (and they're black, so again, suggestions about the type of lighting or reflectors to add? I've not photographed black people - and in natural light I know that there are some tricks I need to apply to get BEAUTIFUL results!) She does so many nice things for everyone at work, I want payback to be exceptional!! I asked them to dress SIMILARLY for one (maybe jeans, and white or peach tops), and will also do some in cap & gown for girl. I don't have a flash, other than my "on camera" (Nikon 7100, and a 5100) So...suggestions about settings, please!! And I do plan to take a couple of white boards and my shiny car window reflectors to help bounce a little light.
I'm doing a shoot as a surprise for a special lady... (show quote)


Strongly suggest a diffuser on your popup. There are many. The Gary Fong Puffer seems popular. Use Manual mode, ISO 400, 1/200 sec, F4. I use a different kind of diffuser on my Speedlight and saw the advise on camera settings on YouTube. Works great. Also, keep the subjects in the same plane if possible or go for a larger F stop number to increase depth of field. The TTL of the popup will set the proper flash duration. Good shooting.

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May 10, 2015 11:20:03   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
gvarner wrote:
Strongly suggest a diffuser on your popup. There are many. The Gary Fong Puffer seems popular. Use Manual mode, ISO 400, 1/200 sec, F4. I use a different kind of diffuser on my Speedlight and saw the advise on camera settings on YouTube. Works great. Also, keep the subjects in the same plane if possible or go for a larger F stop number to increase depth of field. The TTL of the popup will set the proper flash duration. Good shooting.


Yes - good - but the lady has left herself no time.

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May 10, 2015 11:30:55   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
donnahde wrote:
Because of their skin color be sure to use a more open Fstop - 5.6 or wider. If the light is not enough then use a higher ISO. The D7200 will give you great shots with as high as an ISO as you'll need for a wide aperture and a fast enough shutter speed. Don't be afraid to raise it. Use a fast enough shutter speed that you can freeze whatever fun they have with each other - at LEAST 1/125. Try to catch them interacting with each other, looking at the camera, looking away. Candids and posed. Have fun! And catch them having fun. Their mom will be thrilled. What a wonderful gift!
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May 10, 2015 11:32:19   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
How about if it so happens that you still in an area t
Where they hung out as kids and how they now look as you adults in the same place.
Delderby wrote:
Yes - good - but the lady has left herself no time.

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May 10, 2015 12:34:27   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
How about if it so happens that you still in an area t
Where they hung out as kids and how they now look as you adults in the same place.


Could be nice :)

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May 10, 2015 20:31:55   #
BeachLady Loc: Surfside Beach, SC
 
Thanks to those of you who were supportive and helpful. I simply chose not to respond to those who were not. I was not ASKED to do this...I wanted to surprise this woman with something I knew she would like. Waiting several months would have accomplished nothing (except that the granddaughter would be away at college and less accessible!) I don't intend to become a "portrait photographer" and will not be adding equipment for that purpose. I'm happy with some of my shots, and I am sure she will be too. There are several others, but wanted to post a few to prove I am capable of taking a picture in the middle of a tropical storm!!











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May 10, 2015 20:49:42   #
PhotoshooterNJ Loc: NJ
 
BeachLady wrote:
Thanks to those of you who were supportive and helpful. I simply chose not to respond to those who were not. I was not ASKED to do this...I wanted to surprise this woman with something I knew she would like. Waiting several months would have accomplished nothing (except that the granddaughter would be away at college and less accessible!) I don't intend to become a "portrait photographer" and will not be adding equipment for that purpose. I'm happy with some of my shots, and I am sure she will be too. There are several others, but wanted to post a few to prove I am capable of taking a picture in the middle of a tropical storm!!
Thanks to those of you who were supportive and hel... (show quote)


Fantastic job beachlady. Some nice poses you have there. A little work in Lightroom/Photoshop with some lightening/burning and some vignetting. The images will look like they came from a high-end studio. The Sheriff. Lol

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May 10, 2015 20:51:49   #
janicefann Loc: Frostproof, FL
 
I saw one pose for graduation that I just loved. Subject with cap on ,sitting crossed legged with a big stack of books on lap and using arms to lean on the books.

Hope with these great ideas you will have some fantastic shots to choose from.

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