Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Of course. I did say please! :)

However, Mac vs PC has been going a lot longer than raw vs JPEG, not as long as Nikon vs Canon, Ford vs Chevy, woman vs man, and so on...

Any "which is better" question without a very specific context is likely to get into trouble..., most people should have some idea about that....

Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA

Which makes me wonder if such discussions aren't simply like "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" in newer clothing.



Rule #1: Never argue with a pig. You both get muddy and the pig likes it.

Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA

You can only use free electrons. Waste all you want.

:thumbup:

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

Don't forget the electron the power company charges you for might be a free electron, but it's the SAME electron they sell you, over and over and over. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

16.78 million for JPEG angels, 4.39 trillion or more for angels in the raw - who needs clothing..., so says the theory...., more than the eye can see in either case, so we need diminished angels apparently!



And some think that it annoys the pig!

Sigh, so continues the search for eternal truth....

Take care! :)

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

So is this like software, a perpetual right to use license vs a subscription model?

How many 'old chestnuts' can we get into this thread? Could it be more than the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin?

Wait! - Is it a full format pin or a crop format pin?

Mudshark Loc: Illinois

In the 60's and early 70's I was a Navy Photographer. We always divided photographers into "shooters" and "screw drivers" or "screw driver photographers." I was proud to be a shooter. The screw drivers were always messing with some new formula to push film or some modification to a camera. Most of the time, I must admit, their images had nice grain structure, etc. but were mostly BORING. The shooters on the other hand made images with meaning. The screw drivers enjoyed lab work while the shooters wanted to be out MAKING PHOTOGRAPHS. Screw drivers would become almost sexually aroused when someone would ask how they managed to get such a sharp image under those circumstances or what a great print. I always liked it when someone just stood and stared, or showed some emotion or just looked a long time and said "Oh Wow…"
Now in the digital age I suspect the people are the same it's just the machinery has changed. I shoot manual RAW for way to many reasons to repeat in this never ending BS…I hate messing around on the computer. But just like the old days…I was never happy unless I processed my own stuff. And I didn't want to be in "the lab" I wanted to be back out making more images…….

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

It is not a case of either/or. Everyone does something "after shot," if only cropping and/or re-sizing, or for that matter, viewing.

Everyone does something "pre shot" - I set the ISO, the aperture, the shutter speed, and compose the shot "pre shot." I get results "SOOC" that I am extremely happy with - written to the card as raw files. Very few require any post processing, and that is much more true since I stopped working with JPEGs as a starting point.

I am not saying that this is the "right" approach, I am saying that it is the approach that works for me, and your assertions about working with raw files are contradicted by my direct experience.

Everyone should find and use the methods that work best for them and for the results they are trying to accomplish.

Mike

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

That is a great point. Some people are more fascinated with the tools than with the results. Nothing wrong with that.

I would only add that not all of those working with raw files are "screw driver photographers" and not all of those who do not work with raw files are "shooters."

Mike

PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place

You were close but you loose Ralloh. Already at 14, do I hear 20??? :( :(

Don

bw79st Loc: New York City

You could save your finger some work by not posting your questions in such a negative, arrogant and flippant manner. Go back and read your initial question and ask yourself, "Would I bother to reply to this "know-it-all?"

rvenn

Thanks for the education!! I just started using a Canon after some time with Nikon only. I notice the RAW files from the Canon come in as "CR2" as opposed to the Nikon files. It does not seem to affect anything as far as the cataloging or post-processing, but I am wondering if it is OK to have both file types in LR or should I try to convert the Canon files (to what I don't know).

Just don't know. So far, so good. i have not had a problem, but I have yet to print or export a file from the Canon.

Thanks for any insight.

R V

Ralloh Loc: Ohio

Wll now, let's get this thing moving. I personally prefer Coke, how about you?

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

I just reread his first post which said, "Besides using more space on a memory card what other benefits are there when shooting Raw?" What is negative, arrogant, or flippant about it? He notes the files sizes are bigger and claimed to want to understand the benefits. There is nothing I see in this particular post which is egregious.