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Apr 28, 2015 23:04:52   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
jazzman1 wrote:
Yes it does. All info helps me since I'm learning. I have the non IS, 75-300mm lll kit lens, but surprisingly it works well hand held. I read it is not suppose to work well hand held with no IS but I swear mine does. It's just not sharp at the furthest range as I would like. It's cheaply and poorly built, and sun glare comes into play at times. But lens shake getting shots has not been an issue I've noticed.


Compare the two in different situations and I think you will see a difference, especially in lower light situations....

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Apr 28, 2015 23:06:10   #
jazzman1 Loc: South Of The Border
 
Peterff wrote:
One way to interpret the chart is that the L lens is definitely superior, but at a significant cost. The other two lenses are similar optically.

What the chart does not tell you is about the usability of the the lens as a result IS capability. Hand held.

I would say that the two basic lenses are similar optically, but that the IS version is much more versatile in the field.

That help?


BTW...from the chart here I can see the 300L shows higher scores than the other two lens, but just barely. Those figures are not a blowout, unless that's a common....being a small difference among better lens.

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Apr 28, 2015 23:11:51   #
jazzman1 Loc: South Of The Border
 
Peterff wrote:
Compare the two in different situations and I think you will see a difference, especially in lower light situations....


Now that I have noticed. Soon as the sun starts to fade my lens starts to fail horribly. That I've encountered. Not a good lens in low light.

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Apr 28, 2015 23:26:13   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
jazzman1 wrote:
BTW...from the chart here I can see the 300L shows higher scores than the other two lens, but just barely. Those figures are not a blowout, unless that's a common....being a small difference among better lens.


A small difference if those numbers can be a huge difference in real life....

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Apr 28, 2015 23:26:57   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
jazzman1 wrote:
Now that I have noticed. Soon as the sun starts to fade my lens starts to fail horribly. That I've encountered. Not a good lens in low light.


The IS buys you a stop or two...

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Apr 29, 2015 00:17:36   #
jazzman1 Loc: South Of The Border
 
Peterff wrote:
The IS buys you a stop or two...



Thanks peterff and all you guys. What you've said is helping me understand lens tech. I guess small better numbers can be hugh as you say in real life shooting situations. Everyone has been great, thanks for all the reply's. I'll end this thread here.

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Apr 29, 2015 06:18:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jazzman1 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has used this lens or knows anything about it's quality and IQ??? I was thinking of replacing my EF 75-300mm lll kit lens with this one. I've read conflicting reviews on this lens, the reviews are all over the map.

Would I be getting better results with this lens over my 75-300mm to make it a good buy???

This might hel.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/lenses
http://lenshero.com/lens-comparison
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx
http://www.lenstip.com/lenses.html
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare

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Apr 29, 2015 06:18:33   #
COLANN Loc: Pahiatua Tararua New Zealand
 
Go for it, i have had mine for around 7 mths and it is almost a fixture on my Canon 600d, think thats a 3ti in the US, i find it quite good, mind you i am not saying there are not better lenses out there, all depends on how deep your pockets are, ''
I live in Australia, and got mine for au$460 and have been quite plesed with it, I know the L version is better, but here in Aus its about 1000k more expensive,and my bank is not that deep,Colin

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Apr 29, 2015 07:01:48   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
Prior to getting the 70-300L I did have the 70-300 which at the time I purchased it was described by someone on UHH as an "L" lens in disguise so if you want that range until you can afford the best I would not hesitate in getting the non L in the mean time. If you can get used (which I seen on Craigslist for pretty short money or canon site for refurb you get most if not all your money back when you sell it to get the best. Just thought.
jazzman1 wrote:
I agree, and I'm aware of the better quality and build with Canon L lenses. I'm referring to the great difference in price between the Canon EF 75-300 mm lll kit lens vs. Canon 70-300mm IS USM lens...with no seemingly better IQ. That's a lot to charge for a lens one would see no better quality in IQ.

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Apr 29, 2015 08:02:38   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
I have to agree as I too have owned the first two and found that the 70-300 much better in IQ, However I have since gone with the 70-300L and that beats them all. It is by far the sharpest lens in my bag not counting the new 100-400 ii. You will love the 70-300L. Hope this helps!


I agree. If the OP has the budget then the 70-300 L is excellent. Good used ones are out there. I sold mine, in perfect condition, for $1,000 when I bought my 100-400 L II.

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Apr 29, 2015 09:17:36   #
Bushymonster Loc: Oklahoma City. OK.
 
I bought a Canon lens 75-300 4-5 lens for 199.99 new. I must have a different5. lens than the Canon 4-5 than you you are talking about. I don't know anything but what is on the lens. Can I get more information about the lens than what is on the lens because mine was on sale at Best Buy and Conn's matched the price so I was able to charge it. Is this a good lens or what? I have taken a lot of pictures and it shoots nice.
-Bushy

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Apr 29, 2015 09:20:25   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jazzman1 wrote:
Thanks Linda. You're right, my mistake it is the 4-5.6. That's a nice shot you took. What range MM did you take your pic at??? It helps to know some of you guys like the 70-300mm IS USM. I wasn't aware buying used got such good results. I always read not to chance used lens, but refurb from the manufacturer were fine. You got good results with used.


The baby bighorn was at full 300 mm. Location was a feeding station, so very close :) In the below topic, #1 at 70 mm, and #2 at 130 mm.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-285241-1.html

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Apr 29, 2015 10:16:10   #
MEB540 Loc: New Jersey
 
Just to give you another option the Tamron SP 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di VC USD has proved to be a great lens with great IS. I decided to purchase it instead of the 70-300 is and have been very happy with my selection. It is not up to the level of the L lens but it compares very nicely next to the 70-300is lens.

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Apr 29, 2015 10:36:57   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
jazzman1 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has used this lens or knows anything about it's quality and IQ??? I was thinking of replacing my EF 75-300mm lll kit lens with this one. I've read conflicting reviews on this lens, the reviews are all over the map.

Would I be getting better results with this lens over my 75-300mm to make it a good buy???


I own a 75-300 and have had nothing but good results with it. Just curious: Why replace it?

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Apr 29, 2015 10:37:19   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
jazzman1 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has used this lens or knows anything about it's quality and IQ??? I was thinking of replacing my EF 75-300mm lll kit lens with this one. I've read conflicting reviews on this lens, the reviews are all over the map.

Would I be getting better results with this lens over my 75-300mm to make it a good buy???


Be certain you are getting feedback pertinent to your question. One response talks about the 75-300mm USM III, but that appears to be a different model than yours, with better USM focusing and costing a bit more.

The 75-300mm III (not USM and not IS) that you have is the cheapest telezoom that Canon makes, with a list price under $200 separately and commonly selling for even less in kits or bundles. It has comparatively weak image quality and poor AF performance, mediocre build quality.

But even the least of modern Canon lenses are capable of pretty good image quality under ideal conditions. Would the 70-300 IS USM offer better? Yes.... There would be incremental improvement. Only you can say if it's dramatic enough to make it worth the difference in price. Look for test shots done with the lens at www.The-Digital-Picture.com. You can compare it closely with your current lens there. Look for better IQ wide open, vs stopped down. Look for flare, CA and distortion effects. Also ergonomics, such as whether or not the lens front element rotates when focused and whether or not the lens is internal focusing/zooming, what size filters it uses, etc.

Another big plus with the 70-300 IS USM is that you'd be getting IS stabilization. That can be quite helpful with longer teles like these, particularly if using them handheld a lot and especially when using them on a crop sensor camera.

A USM focus drive lens also will be a better match for a the high performance AF system of a 7D Mark II, for action/sports photography, for example.

If you don't need full frame coverage of an EF lens, the two 55-250mm may be worth considering. For just a little a bit more money, the EF-S 55-250 IS II gives better image quality while the EF-S 55-250 IS STM gives both better image quality and better AF performance (faster, smoother, quieter).

STM or "Stepper Motor" focus is faster than micro motor, tho not quite as fast as USM or "Ultrasonic Motor"... STM is a little smoother and quieter than USM, making STM particularly good if wanting to shoot video.

The EF 70-300 IS USM is also a better performing lens in all respects, as well as better built (although it's not L-quality build). At about $650 list price, it's an EF lens and full frame capable.

There are also the very compact EF 70-300 DO IS USM and the premium EF 70-300L IS USM, with typical L-series build/sealing/durability... both of which sell for well above $1000. The 70-300L has a feature I always look for on a long telephoto... a tripod mounting collar. None of the other lenses above can be fitted with a collar.

Also in this class there are the four Canon 70-200Ls and the 100-400L II. All of these are USM and either come with or can be fitted with a tripod collar. All have IS, too, except for two of the lower cost 70-200s.

Almost too many choices! Decide which features you need and that should help you narrow it down. If also open to used and refurbished, there are even more models to consider. Do a lot of research and very careful to any feedback is specific to the particular model or models you're looking at.

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