Assistance with Computer
Apr 13, 2015 16:24:21 #
I am so happy. Bought a new laptop and it is faster than my last desktop I built as a custom.
MSI GS70 Stealth
Pro-086 Intel Quad-Core i7 4710HQ
2.25 GHz 16GB Memory
1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
NVIDIA 3GB Geforce GTX 970M
17.3 Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Laptop
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Boot up is beyond praising. I run both 32 and 64 Bit PaintShop Pro X7 and it is ready about 3 seconds after clicking in taskbar.
This thing smokes.
Sarge69
MSI GS70 Stealth
Pro-086 Intel Quad-Core i7 4710HQ
2.25 GHz 16GB Memory
1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
NVIDIA 3GB Geforce GTX 970M
17.3 Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Laptop
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Boot up is beyond praising. I run both 32 and 64 Bit PaintShop Pro X7 and it is ready about 3 seconds after clicking in taskbar.
This thing smokes.
Sarge69
Apr 13, 2015 16:26:25 #
Apr 13, 2015 16:28:48 #
I am so happy. Bought a new laptop and it is faster than my last desktop I built as a custom.
MSI GS70 Stealth
Pro-086 Intel Quad-Core i7 4710HQ
2.25 GHz 16GB Memory
1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
NVIDIA 3GB Geforce GTX 970M
17.3 Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Laptop
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Boot up is beyond praising. I run both 32 and 64 Bit PaintShop Pro X7 and it is ready about 3 seconds after clicking in taskbar.
This thing smokes.
Sarge69
MSI GS70 Stealth
Pro-086 Intel Quad-Core i7 4710HQ
2.25 GHz 16GB Memory
1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
NVIDIA 3GB Geforce GTX 970M
17.3 Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Laptop
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Boot up is beyond praising. I run both 32 and 64 Bit PaintShop Pro X7 and it is ready about 3 seconds after clicking in taskbar.
This thing smokes.
Sarge69
Apr 13, 2015 18:11:49 #
ebbote wrote:
We do not even know where the OP's bottleneck is, so for you to say it is not the video card is totally bogus. If you
ever played video games you will know that the video card
is everything. I worked on many a computer where the video card was the problem with the computer locking up, stuttering and just plain slow because of video. And yes, a
video card can slow a computer down if the card can not
handle the graphics. And yes, it even happens on Macs.
ever played video games you will know that the video card
is everything. I worked on many a computer where the video card was the problem with the computer locking up, stuttering and just plain slow because of video. And yes, a
video card can slow a computer down if the card can not
handle the graphics. And yes, it even happens on Macs.
Actually, Lightroom does not utilize your GPU (video card), and Photoshop only uses it for certain filters (The Blur Gallery, Perspective Warp, Smart Sharpen, etc.). Take a look here. It is rumored though, that LR6 will be using the GPU to speed up things in the Develop Module.
Apr 13, 2015 18:56:55 #
We do not know if the op is have a problem with download-
ing pictures to his computer or uploading an image to a PP
program, that is where the video speed comes into play.
That is what he was talking about, the size of his files slowed his computer down. Upload and download.
ing pictures to his computer or uploading an image to a PP
program, that is where the video speed comes into play.
That is what he was talking about, the size of his files slowed his computer down. Upload and download.
Erik_H wrote:
Actually, Lightroom does not utilize your GPU (video card), and Photoshop only uses it for certain filters (The Blur Gallery, Perspective Warp, Smart Sharpen, etc.). Take a look here. It is rumored though, that LR6 will be using the GPU to speed up things in the Develop Module.
Apr 14, 2015 00:31:28 #
wapiti wrote:
WOW! You guys are amazing. Thank you so much.
To answer some of your questions, my computer is a Dell, I use LR, on1 suite 9, and PS cc.
Before I bought this computer, I was advised to get Ram in blocks of three, thus, the 9gb's.
To answer some of your questions, my computer is a Dell, I use LR, on1 suite 9, and PS cc.
Before I bought this computer, I was advised to get Ram in blocks of three, thus, the 9gb's.
Very ODD. RAM is generally pairs... The only way to do threes is with one strip of two and one strip of 1. And then the question of how many total RAM slots. Generally two slots or 4 slots.
So threes are not a generally accepted method of discussing or configuring RAM... never seen it used.
The only limitation of three is if you have a 32 bit OS, the OS can only adress 3 Gbytes of RAM. But you have a 64 bit system... right?
Apr 14, 2015 05:50:31 #
wapiti wrote:
WOW! You guys are amazing. Thank you so much.
To answer some of your questions, my computer is a Dell, I use LR, on1 suite 9, and PS cc.
Before I bought this computer, I was advised to get Ram in blocks of three, thus, the 9gb's.
To answer some of your questions, my computer is a Dell, I use LR, on1 suite 9, and PS cc.
Before I bought this computer, I was advised to get Ram in blocks of three, thus, the 9gb's.
Not knowing the camera you had prior to the D800, I would say that what you are experiencing is probably normal and expected. You may have only one physical hard drive in the computer, which will certainly slow down On1 and PSCC, but it won't make a difference with LR. Ram, especially with D800 files, really should be a minimum of 16gb. The more ram you have, the less often your system will resort to using the scratch disk, which will most definitely improve program execution in PS and On1. Multiple, fast hard drives are the answer.
CPU speed will affect LR performance, as will the number of cores. Faster clock and more cores will help.
An older graphics card with 512gb is ok, but it is slower than the current crop, and Lightroom will be slow when moving from image to image, while the card clears the frame buffer.
Your system I am guessing is about 7 yrs old, judging from the few details you have provided. Everything is faster these days.
You are not going to like my suggestion, but I think that trying to upgrade this system would be throwing good money after bad. Your best alternative is to replace it with something newer and faster. If you want, I can help you with a configuration, based on your budget and performance expectations. Since 1983 I have personally built over 3,000 custom systems for high end engineering, architectural and graphics applications - and without a doubt, I can help you avoid costly mistakes because of bad advice. It's not that your computer is outdated - I am sure it works just fine with the original software and camera files that you bought it for - but the performance you require to satisfactorily run your new "stuff" is way beyond your old system's capabilities. I experienced the same dilemma when I bought my D800 last year. I was running an Intel i5 2500k cpu, 16 gb ram, 60 gb SSD cache on the system 1 tb mechanical drive, and a RAID 5 with 3 1 TB drives. I do lots of panos, focus stacking and HDR, and on my bigger panos the system would drop to its knees, and with On1 8 it would actually crash the system if I applied more than one or two effects at a time.
I was able to get an i7 2600k overclocked to 4.5 gHz, 32 gb ram, upgraded my slower older NVidia card to a Quadro K1100 with 2 gb, and replaced the 3 WD black drives with a set of 4 WD Re drives - and I no longer have to make myself a cup of coffeed and consume it waiting for a large pano to be stitched. I recently created a 13 shot pano with 31,000 px x 7400 px and the system survived the experience. There are a number of motherboards that offer the Intel cache scheme, and I would highly recommend it - you end up with 95% of the performance of an SSD-only system drive, but a 1 TB with a small SSD will cost you far less than a 1 TB SSD only.
Send me a PM if you are interested in my help.
Apr 14, 2015 07:50:53 #
Erik_H wrote:
I'm curious how you ended up with 9 GB of ram. Ram is usually installed in even numbered increments. Anyway, whether or not you can upgrade your system memory depends on the hardware you're using. What brand and model computer are you running? Windows 7 Home Premium can utilize up to 16 GB ram, for more you would need to upgrade to Win 7 Professional or higher, if your motherboard supports it.
FYI: The max ram on my Win7 64 is listed as whatever the motherboard is capable of. I'm using a 16 and an 8 on my AMD 970 extreme, that maxes out at 32, and it regesters as 24mb.
The max amount must have been raised in one of the monthly updates MS throws at me.
Apr 14, 2015 07:52:32 #
Erik_H wrote:
I'm curious how you ended up with 9 GB of ram. Ram is usually installed in even numbered increments. Anyway, whether or not you can upgrade your system memory depends on the hardware you're using. What brand and model computer are you running? Windows 7 Home Premium can utilize up to 16 GB ram, for more you would need to upgrade to Win 7 Professional or higher, if your motherboard supports it.
FYI: The max ram on my Win7 64 is listed as whatever the motherboard is capable of. I'm using a 16 and an 8 on my AMD 970 extreme 4, that maxes out at 32, and it regesters as 24mb.
The max amount must have been raised in one of the monthly updates MS throws at me.
Apr 14, 2015 07:58:12 #
zigipha
Loc: north nj
All this great input but
1. OP never really said what was slow....transferring photos, opening lightroom, doing a 10 layer mask in PS, exporting as jpg, uploading to cloud
2. nor said how slow - 60 second wait for app to open or just a second hesitation now and then.
i find that fascinating..lol
1. OP never really said what was slow....transferring photos, opening lightroom, doing a 10 layer mask in PS, exporting as jpg, uploading to cloud
2. nor said how slow - 60 second wait for app to open or just a second hesitation now and then.
i find that fascinating..lol
Apr 14, 2015 08:21:58 #
GoldwingerTX wrote:
You have to much running in the background.
Do a clean boot and see how fast it runs.
Do a clean boot and see how fast it runs.
I would agree with this. Your HW should be able to handle image processing without choking.
However.....9gig is kind of an odd amount of ram.
Is this what your system was advertised as having?
Apr 14, 2015 08:54:53 #
wapiti wrote:
My operating system is as follows: br Windows 7 64... (show quote)
How about telling us Exactly what you mean by "hamstrung", we do not even know what you are doing when it gets "hamstrung". We really cannot help without knowing exactly what your problem is; all we can do is give you best guess.
Apr 14, 2015 09:40:26 #
ralphc4176
Loc: Conyers, GA
You haven't indicated which motherboard you have; the motherboard determines the maximum system RAM which will be supported. I've never heard of anyone running 9 GB of RAM--RAM usually comes in multiples of 2 GB. You also didn't specify the size of your hard drive; if it's anywhere near full, your Windows performance will bog down. Also, your video card only has 512 MB of video RAM; more modern cards have a minimum of 1 GB of video RAM; the better ones have 2 GB or 4 GB (or more). Your processor is fast enough. You should upgrade to 16 GB of system RAM if your motherboard supports it, add another hard drive and move data files to it if your boot drive is nearly full, and get the most modern NVIDIA GeForce video card your motherboard will support and which will fit in the case. You will almost certainly have to replace your power supply with a better one (I like 900-watt power supplies for my desktop machines). You may also have to add more cooling fans to your case to dissipate the extra heat from the video card.
Apr 14, 2015 10:31:52 #
You have almost exactly what I run. You may be bogged down by unwanted processes or services. I was. Right click on the task bar and click task manager. You can see what is running. I reduced my unneeded startups and I run much faster. A product called cccleaner does a great job removing temp files etc. I run cccleaner with each shutdown.
Apr 14, 2015 10:46:46 #
I agree with Kuzano. Get an SSD, the same size as your C Drive, and get some Cloning Software to clone the old drive to the new drive. I put an SSD in my HP laptop and just booting up was much less than 30 seconds.
Also, that 9 GB of RAM. That's an odd number for RAM. Are you sure?
Also, that 9 GB of RAM. That's an odd number for RAM. Are you sure?
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