Shooting video (Page 2): No. That was true of video tape but not of digital. Every time you stop the video you just shot is recorded and each segment then becomes it's own file. Which...

jimmya Loc: Phoenix

kurt473 wrote:

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No. That was true of video tape but not of digital. Every time you stop the video you just shot is recorded and each segment then becomes it's own file. Which is actually better and easier to edit.

Do you have a good editor? If not I can recommend one that I use that's easy to use and gives good results and is cost effective.

There are however some additions I'd recommend for your camera, especially if it takes an external microphone.

Good luck.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

jimmya wrote:

Do you have a good editor? If not I can recommend one that I use that's easy to use and gives good results and is cost effective.

What is your favorite?

mackolb

When I discovered that my Nikon D750 has a 29-minute video recording limit per clip, I decided to explore my options. My Panasonic AG-AC160 can record up 10-contiuous hours of 1080p video if I have the camera connected to AC power and I am recording in relay mode covering two 64GB SDHC cards. The Nikon can get me longer continuous recording if I use an external HDMI-connected device such as an ATOMOS Ninja or other similar device using specified SDHC/XC cards or SSDs. I'm still researching which one will suit my needs and will share my experience after I've made my purchase and experienced the results.

jimmya Loc: Phoenix

bsprague wrote:

What is your favorite?

I like TrakAxPC. It's a product of Ireland (I believe). It's very reasonable in price at under $40. It's an excellent editor but at that price it doesn't have all the bells and whistles you may need. I don't need them for my stuff so it's just perfect.

There's another consideration here. I have an editor called
Video Pad. It's a good editor but not for rolling shutter cameras which all dslr cameras are. With this editor if a person walks through your frame side to side often it will cause that moving person to jitter in the frame - not a good thing. That's because of the way rolling shutter video works.

With TrakAx the editor either works around it or ignores the rolling shutter, I don't know witch... the result is smooth, clean edits. It preserves the full 1080, sharp, high resolution and saturation that always looks so nice.

If you want to see what this editor does, here's a piece I did recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaxSNENDtz8

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

The GH4 DOES NOT have a preset limit on recording time, in some parts of the world. The limit is battery life and card capacity... about 220 minutes in AVCHD. Even if you have to press the button to start a new clip at 29:59, it's not going to overheat.

Bloke wrote:

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mackolb

WOW to the GH4. I'm a Nikon shooter, since about 1975, so my choices have been dictated by a library of lenses and history since 2001 with the D1X and forward. So, I'm changing with the tech-times and acquiring stuff that will enable my Nikon systems to grow to match my skills and product/deliverables development. BTW, I edit with and teach FCP X for Apple.

Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania

burkphoto wrote:

The GH4 DOES NOT have a preset limit on recording time, in some parts of the world. The limit is battery life and card capacity... about 220 minutes in AVCHD. Even if you have to press the button to start a new clip at 29:59, it's not going to overheat.

It is having to press the button every so many minutes which is the problem... I shot a service on Saturday, and both my 7D and T4i shot nearly 90 minutes of video with no overheating problems whatsoever. The problem was that I had to keep coming down from the choir to restart the recording.

Any dslr will keep on shooting as long as their is battery power and memory capacity. The need is for one which will do it without having someone keep pushing a button!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

mackolb wrote:

WOW to the GH4. I'm a Nikon shooter, since about 1975, so my choices have been dictated by a library of lenses and history since 2001 with the D1X and forward. So, I'm changing with the tech-times and acquiring stuff that will enable my Nikon systems to grow to match my skills and product/deliverables development. BTW, I edit with and teach FCP X for Apple.

All of your Nikon lenses will work on a GH4 if you use a Metabones SpeedBooster. They'll be a stop faster, too.

jimmya Loc: Phoenix

Bloke wrote:

It is having to press the button every so many minutes which is the problem... I shot a service on Saturday, and both my 7D and T4i shot nearly 90 minutes of video with no overheating problems whatsoever. The problem was that I had to keep coming down from the choir to restart the recording.

Any dslr will keep on shooting as long as their is battery power and memory capacity. The need is for one which will do it without having someone keep pushing a button!

Actually about dslr cameras shooting as long as there is battery power isn't true. These sensors over heat at about 12 to 13 minutes and the camera will then shut down so heat damage won't happen to the sensor or other parts.

If you stop and start the sensor has a chance to cool between takes and will then probably shoot as long as there is battery power but one straight roll... no that won't happen.

mackolb

I'm particularly fond of my FX, full-frame image sensor, so unless the GH4 does that, it'll be hard to convince me to change. As an old girlfriend told me, I'm a hardtop, not a convertible when it comes to cameras.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

mackolb wrote:

I'm particularly fond of my FX, full-frame image sensor, so unless the GH4 does that, it'll be hard to convince me to change. As an old girlfriend told me, I'm a hardtop, not a convertible when it comes to cameras.

The GH4 is the mainstay of professional hybrid photographers, those who shoot video and stills and blend the two into web-based products. It's probably not for those who do mural-size landscapes, sports action, or birding photography. But for those of us who do industrial training videos, low budget films, and any number of projects featuring an even mix of video and stills, it beats the heck out of the Canons and Nikons I used to use.

I still like Canons for portraiture, weddings, and events, and Nikons for landscape and product photography and photojournalism. All their lenses will work on a GH4 with a Metabones SpeedBooster the Canons automatically, the Nikons manually. For that matter, most any lens can be adapted to Micro-Four-Thirds with the right adapter. Since most pro video work is focused manually and shot on manual exposure, manual is not a serious issue.

There's a LinkedIn group about hybrid photography (Hybrid Photography with Mirrorless Cameras), if anyone's interested. It's hosted by long-time Chicago commercial photographer and industry leading photo educator, Will Crockett. He's a huge fan of Lumix cameras... and mirror-less in general.

mackolb

Well, then. It must be time for me to see how one feels in my hands. Thanks.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

mackolb wrote:

Well, then. It must be time for me to see how one feels in my hands. Thanks.

Try it with the 7-14mm f/4, the 12-35mm f/2.8, and the 35-100mm f/2.8 pro zooms from Panasonic. That's the "holy trinity" that matches the Nikon 14-28, 24-70, and 70-200 mm angles of coverage.

Depth of field is two stops greater, aperture for aperture, than full frame. This may or may not bother you, but is definitely something to consider. It can be an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the scene.

http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html is a list of the available lenses for Micro-Four-Thirds. I'm not sure it's completely up to date.

Panasonic lenses work best on Panasonic Cameras, Olympus lenses work best on Olympus cameras, but either will work on the other's bodies. Olympus has in body image stabilization, while Panasonic has it in some of their lenses. Panasonic builds firmware correction for chromatic aberrations into their lenses and bodies, but Olympus ignores it.

Again, adapters will mount nearly anything on a GH4. The SpeedBooster adapter is expensive, awesome, and gives you an extra stop from your existing lenses when used on m43...

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

jimmya wrote:

I like TrakAxPC. It's a product of Ireland (I believe). It's very reasonable in price at under $40....

That's one I've never heard off! My favorite has been Premier Elements and I've had four versions. Depending on sales, packages and promotions it ranges from about $50 to $80. I like the package where it is included with Photoshop Elements and have used that path for upgrades twice.

Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania

jimmya wrote:

Actually about dslr cameras shooting as long as there is battery power isn't true. These sensors over heat at about 12 to 13 minutes and the camera will then shut down so heat damage won't happen to the sensor or other parts.

If you stop and start the sensor has a chance to cool between takes and will then probably shoot as long as there is battery power but one straight roll... no that won't happen.

Did you read my post? Shooting at 640x480 resolution, both my 7D and T4i will shoot for more than 20 minutes without overheating. If I am there close to the end of that time, I can stop and immediately start again, and there is no problem with heat. I just did this 2 days ago!