THIS IS AN APPEAL
Mar 23, 2015 17:31:29 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
I question your notion that the best way to learn/teach photography is with film cameras. Among other issues there is the expense of film, the hassle of digitizing and sharing images, and most significantly the lack of immediate feedback. For example, when teaching lighting setups, students can immediately see the effect of reflectors, etc.
I couldn't agree more with this statement. I grew up in film which is now a dinosaur and would definitely not impose this on the new, unassuming student when 'instant gratification' is the norm.
Once on board with the excitement of digital, then, for those so inclined, film might be another path. It makes no sense in this world to 'start' with film.
Mar 23, 2015 19:01:45 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
romanticf16 wrote:
Film is the best way to learn. You have to discipline yourself and think; conserve your film; check your settings. You learn about exposure, hyper focal distances, DOF and all the basic concepts of photography because you have to control them. And with a darkroom you don't have to digitize images, you expose and print the old way. Everything doesn't have to be "immediate"- sometimes slow allows you to discover concepts you'd overlook with faster paced presentation of the material.
Discipline can be present with digital and the immediacy of results gives feedback on lighting setups, correct metering, and such. It gives prompt feedback on hyperfocal issues and depth of field as well. It also is useful to instruct on color temperature and filtering, something much more difficult to teach in the traditional chemical-based photography.
I have extensive darkroom experience, including both custom printing and production work (E.g., 200 8x10's of 4-up 4x5s in an evening, done with a mechanized production processor.) I've used Nikons and other cameras. I've used Nikkormats, FE models, F1, F2, F3, & F4. All of them now gather dust; I would never go back to chemical photography.
And besides all that, digital is better for the environment.
Mar 24, 2015 07:33:19 #
Leitz
Loc: Solms
SharpShooter wrote:
DI, I don't know anything about Nikons except that Nikon people seem to hoard old glass, so your not likely to get any Nikon lenses.
So my suggestion is, since I assume those old bodies are all manual, and if not, the students will be shooting manual regardless, that you look to see what the cheapest lenses one can get, of any brand, then get cheap adapters to mount them.
Just a thought.
SS
So my suggestion is, since I assume those old bodies are all manual, and if not, the students will be shooting manual regardless, that you look to see what the cheapest lenses one can get, of any brand, then get cheap adapters to mount them.
Just a thought.
SS
We don't hoard them, SS, we USE them!
Jan 3, 2016 21:51:29 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
romanticf16 wrote:
Yes, but you learn hyper focal distance, exposure, discipline and patience. [using chemical film]
You're also going to lose a lot of students. Heck, the photos from some of these smart cameras are so astonishingly good quality they're cutting into the sale of low-end DSLRs!
Jan 3, 2016 22:26:57 #
Responding to a thread started over two years ago?? Those kids are probably married with kids of their own!!!!!!
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
You're also going to lose a lot of students. Heck, the photos from some of these smart cameras are so astonishingly good quality they're cutting into the sale of low-end DSLRs!
Jan 3, 2016 23:49:30 #
Jan 4, 2016 00:03:07 #
I'd look on ebay for some old 50mm lenses. I wouldn't worry about auto focus. Let them focus manually. You should be able to get a bunch of them fairly inexpensively.
Jan 4, 2016 00:24:14 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
You're also going to lose a lot of students. Heck, the photos from some of these smart cameras are so astonishingly good quality they're cutting into the sale of low-end DSLRs!
Why did you resurrect this topic? It started in 2013 and hasn't been discussed for about ten months. Do you think the original appeal is still relevant? OP hasn't posted since April 2015.
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