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Mar 23, 2012 19:41:35   #
Cricket Loc: Southern Ohio
 
my mom has the same camera as I do, and I share a couple lenses of mine that she doesn't have, and some filters and such. She is just as protective of her gear as I am of mine...so I know it's in good hands.

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Mar 23, 2012 19:43:20   #
alienmurphy Loc: Alaska
 
Tina: What an asinine response. You would have one pack up the equipment and take it to the bathroom with them; or, stand there and pee all over the floor? If you choose the later choice, PLEASE invite me to your home to take photos!! How condescending! Your attitude might be different if it had been your $1700 worth of equipment. I have zero tolerance for religious fanatics. There is no power in forgiveness if that forgiveness teaches others that stealing is OK. I do not subscribe to that philosophy. FYI the homeowner is absolutely responsible for what happens in his/her home.

Tina wrote:
alienmurphy wrote:
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a social gathering at my daughter's house recently. I set my 50D with my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 prime up on the fireplace mantel long enough to use the bathroom. When I returned I immediately noticed the camera was gone. Everyone said they had not seen it, was I sure I brought it with me. Yeah, I really came with a camera case with nothing in it but a speedlite. Right!!! They all knew that I had been taking pictures all afternoon. One a..hole even said that I could not have been taking pictures cause he never saw any flash go off. That same a..hole posed for me to shoot a photo of him and my son-in-law together. I called the police and filed a report. That royally pissed my daughter off. I think my daughter and her husband should either replace my equipment or file a claim with their homeowner's insurance. They refuse stating it was my stuff my fault. Needless to say I have not seen or heard from them since. My oldest grandson (22) that lives with me transports the granddaughter (4 years) back and forth. I have my G12 but its not the same. I am still spitting nails I am so mad!!!!!!
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a... (show quote)


It is very unfortunate that your camera disappeared at your daughter's house. Some of us would assume that our property would be safe in a family member's house but, the reality is that you are responsible for your own equipment. It saddens me that you would allow a disagreement on how to handle the situation and the value of a camera [that your daughter was not responsible for] interfere with your relationship. I hope that you and your daughter would soon realize that family is more valuable than property and that we can agreeably disagree. I commend you for not allowing this to interfere with your granddaughter's relationship with them but, children learn how to relate to the world and family members by what see around them. There are health benefits to forgiveness. There is power in forgiveness.
quote=alienmurphy Don't have to worry about that ... (show quote)

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Mar 23, 2012 19:53:43   #
Tina
 
Pepper wrote:
Mudshark wrote:
Tina wrote:
alienmurphy wrote:
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a social gathering at my daughter's house recently. I set my 50D with my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 prime up on the fireplace mantel long enough to use the bathroom. When I returned I immediately noticed the camera was gone. Everyone said they had not seen it, was I sure I brought it with me. Yeah, I really came with a camera case with nothing in it but a speedlite. Right!!! They all knew that I had been taking pictures all afternoon. One a..hole even said that I could not have been taking pictures cause he never saw any flash go off. That same a..hole posed for me to shoot a photo of him and my son-in-law together. I called the police and filed a report. That royally pissed my daughter off. I think my daughter and her husband should either replace my equipment or file a claim with their homeowner's insurance. They refuse stating it was my stuff my fault. Needless to say I have not seen or heard from them since. My oldest grandson (22) that lives with me transports the granddaughter (4 years) back and forth. I have my G12 but its not the same. I am still spitting nails I am so mad!!!!!!
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a... (show quote)

It is very unfortunate that your camera disappeared at your daughter's house. Some of us would assume that our property would be safe in a family member's house but, the reality is that you are responsible for your own equipment. It saddens me that you would allow a disagreement on how to handle the situation and the value of a camera [that your daughter was not responsible for] interfere with your relationship. I hope that you and your daughter would soon realize that family is more valuable than property and that we can agreeably disagree. I commend you for not allowing this to interfere with your granddaughter's relationship with them but, children learn how to relate to the world and family members by what see around them. There are health benefits to forgiveness. There is power in forgiveness.
quote=alienmurphy Don't have to worry about that ... (show quote)


Tina's response lights my fuze...
First, this type of thinking is destroying our society. Had my father been taking photos at my home, etc. I would have made a point of finding the thief among my "friends," i.e., thieves are not friends.
I would have made good on the missing gear. It was my house, my social function and MY RESPONSIBILITY!!!
AND...not one of my "friends" would have ever set foot on my property again until we all...everyone at the function...knew exactly WHO the thief was.
What has happened to our culture?
quote=Tina quote=alienmurphy Don't have to worry... (show quote)



“It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission”. With statements like this we’re teaching our young people that you don’t have to be responsible for anything just say I’m sorry and it’s all good.
quote=Mudshark quote=Tina quote=alienmurphy Don... (show quote)


To Pepper and Mudshark,
I am not implying that his daughter should not feel any since of responsibility in the issue or that she shouldn't make an effort to mitigate it. My 80 year old neighbor just passed away. While on his deathbed, he and his daughter made amends. I don't know what caused the family riff or how long it lasted but, during the last few weeks of his life she came back home to help take care of him. We never know what precious times may have been lost in between. I just wouldn't want to live my life or see anybody else regretting that they didn't make a better effort to restore the relationship sooner. There is more here than who is right or wrong. And I don't believe he would have said all that he said, if he wasn't still hurting over the lost of his camera as well as the relationship. There are many issues here. My focus was on the relationship rather than the possession(s) although, they matter too.

I don't want to spend my time debating about issues that will not change my life or make anyone else any better at the end of the day therefore, I'll try to focus on the photography aspect of this forum. And Mudshark, I just checked and my head wasn't screwed on backwards (LOL). I don't think that comment was necessary. I am willing to agreeably disagree. Life is short and when its possible, I prefer to live it in peace.

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Mar 23, 2012 19:57:14   #
alienmurphy Loc: Alaska
 
jimmya wrote:
larrycumba wrote:
Not me. I keep everything in pristine condition. I keep quiet about what I have except here. I don't loan mine or ask to borrow other's stuff. I know things happen but if it does it will be on me.maybe I good way around it is, "it's in the shop."


Absolutely not! I use the old story (true) that happened to me in Arkansas when I was in the military.

My seargent asked me to run into town to pick up what ever. I told him I didn't have a car, could I barrow his?

He said, "son, you can come to my house, eat all my food and even drink my booze and make love to my wife but son... you cannot drive my automobile!" Ture story.
quote=larrycumba Not me. I keep everything in pri... (show quote)


Chaffee??

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Mar 23, 2012 20:04:43   #
alienmurphy Loc: Alaska
 
Tina wrote:
Pepper wrote:
Mudshark wrote:
Tina wrote:
alienmurphy wrote:
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a social gathering at my daughter's house recently. I set my 50D with my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 prime up on the fireplace mantel long enough to use the bathroom. When I returned I immediately noticed the camera was gone. Everyone said they had not seen it, was I sure I brought it with me. Yeah, I really came with a camera case with nothing in it but a speedlite. Right!!! They all knew that I had been taking pictures all afternoon. One a..hole even said that I could not have been taking pictures cause he never saw any flash go off. That same a..hole posed for me to shoot a photo of him and my son-in-law together. I called the police and filed a report. That royally pissed my daughter off. I think my daughter and her husband should either replace my equipment or file a claim with their homeowner's insurance. They refuse stating it was my stuff my fault. Needless to say I have not seen or heard from them since. My oldest grandson (22) that lives with me transports the granddaughter (4 years) back and forth. I have my G12 but its not the same. I am still spitting nails I am so mad!!!!!!
Don't have to worry about that anymore. I was at a... (show quote)

It is very unfortunate that your camera disappeared at your daughter's house. Some of us would assume that our property would be safe in a family member's house but, the reality is that you are responsible for your own equipment. It saddens me that you would allow a disagreement on how to handle the situation and the value of a camera [that your daughter was not responsible for] interfere with your relationship. I hope that you and your daughter would soon realize that family is more valuable than property and that we can agreeably disagree. I commend you for not allowing this to interfere with your granddaughter's relationship with them but, children learn how to relate to the world and family members by what see around them. There are health benefits to forgiveness. There is power in forgiveness.
quote=alienmurphy Don't have to worry about that ... (show quote)


Tina's response lights my fuze...
First, this type of thinking is destroying our society. Had my father been taking photos at my home, etc. I would have made a point of finding the thief among my "friends," i.e., thieves are not friends.
I would have made good on the missing gear. It was my house, my social function and MY RESPONSIBILITY!!!
AND...not one of my "friends" would have ever set foot on my property again until we all...everyone at the function...knew exactly WHO the thief was.
What has happened to our culture?
quote=Tina quote=alienmurphy Don't have to worry... (show quote)



“It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission”. With statements like this we’re teaching our young people that you don’t have to be responsible for anything just say I’m sorry and it’s all good.
quote=Mudshark quote=Tina quote=alienmurphy Don... (show quote)


To Pepper and Mudshark,
I am not implying that his daughter should not feel any since of responsibility in the issue or that she shouldn't make an effort to mitigate it. My 80 year old neighbor just passed away. While on his deathbed, he and his daughter made amends. I don't know what caused the family riff or how long it lasted but, during the last few weeks of his life she came back home to help take care of him. We never know what precious times may have been lost in between. I just wouldn't want to live my life or see anybody else regretting that they didn't make a better effort to restore the relationship sooner. There is more here than who is right or wrong. And I don't believe he would have said all that he said, if he wasn't still hurting over the lost of his camera as well as the relationship. There are many issues here. My focus was on the relationship rather than the possession(s) although, they matter too.

I don't want to spend my time debating about issues that will not change my life or make anyone else any better at the end of the day therefore, I'll try to focus on the photography aspect of this forum. And Mudshark, I just checked and my head wasn't screwed on backwards (LOL). I don't think that comment was necessary. I am willing to agreeably disagree. Life is short and when its possible, I prefer to live it in peace.
quote=Pepper quote=Mudshark quote=Tina quote=a... (show quote)


Get over yourself. I am intelligent and I don't hurt over stolen (not lost) possessions. I get p-ssed!

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Mar 23, 2012 20:12:22   #
alienmurphy Loc: Alaska
 
To those of you who believe in being responsible I applaud you.

Hiding one's head in the sand, turning the other cheek, etc. is a lot of what's wrong with this country in general. Courtroom defendants would just love for juries to say I forgive you and turn them loose!!!

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Mar 23, 2012 20:15:54   #
itsmrfixit Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
Yes, but only one person. that was the one who got me to get back out and start using my stuff about 8 years ago. afew years back while getting a body I gave them my old one to use. anyone else the answer is no,

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Mar 23, 2012 20:37:04   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
Tina,
You blame Mudshark for saying your head was screwed on backwards. It was I who said that, not Mudshark. I just checked again and YES TINA, your head is screwed on backwards.

Your attitude seems to be "and the meek shall inherit the earth". Yes Tina, they shall. The part that the ones they were meek to pushed them into because it wasn't worth having. Get real girl. This world is as it is not as you would fantasize it is.

The alien was violated he has no amends to make.

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Mar 23, 2012 20:48:47   #
DK Loc: SD
 
I might let someone try a lens if I am standing right there. Did that at Devil's tower. A guy was thinking about buying the Canon 100-400IS, so I let him use it to shoot a squirrel right in front of us after I had already shot it. In exchange, I tried his extreme wide angle (don't remember the size now) He liked my lens, I didn't like his. Otherwise, if any equipment was going out of my sight --NO!

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Mar 23, 2012 21:02:16   #
rowandjr Loc: New Jersey
 
My neighbor asked to borrow my camera. I told him he had a better chance of getting my toothbrush.

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Mar 23, 2012 21:03:24   #
alienmurphy Loc: Alaska
 
rowandjr wrote:
My neighbor asked to borrow my camera. I told him he had a better chance of getting my toothbrush.



:thumbup: LOL!!!!

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Mar 23, 2012 22:26:44   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
No--No--No-- Only to my son. He'll end up with all my stuff anyway. He also lends to me if needed.

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Mar 23, 2012 22:42:41   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
alienmurphy wrote:
To those of you who believe in being responsible I applaud you.

Hiding one's head in the sand, turning the other cheek, etc. is a lot of what's wrong with this country in general. Courtroom defendants would just love for juries to say I forgive you and turn them loose!!!


How about taking responsibility for child rearing? That's responsibility.

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Mar 23, 2012 22:47:33   #
PHFoto Loc: Idaho
 
larrycumba wrote:
Not me. I keep everything in pristine condition. I keep quiet about what I have except here. I don't loan mine or ask to borrow other's stuff. I know things happen but if it does it will be on me.maybe I good way around it is, "it's in the shop."


Nope here also,,

:thumbdown:

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Mar 23, 2012 23:21:02   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
But everyone Does have a photographic memory----Some just don't have Film---------------------

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