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Mar 1, 2015 10:05:34   #
mdouglas1
 
:-) This is very true. It seems that some could be a bit less grumpy.

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Mar 1, 2015 10:12:55   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
Sure, the two halves are identical. Incidentally, if you tip your screen (or stand up if you're on a desktop) you'll see that density change.

I'm sorry to have presented a ridiculosity. When I started on this site I happily jumped in with both feet, thinking I could contribute and/or learn something. What I quickly learned is that there are far too many quick-on-the-trigger types who belittle and sneer. I went away for months, but I thought I'd come back and see if anything changed.

Guess not.
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Chuck, please don't apologize for bringing to light how the light looks different under different circumstances. This is a great lesson for us all!!

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Mar 1, 2015 10:20:31   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
f8lee wrote:
Geez, I guess it was only a matter of time until this ridiculosity appeared here...

I saw a graphic that illustrates how odd human vision can be, and attached it here. Note the two sides of the cube (if you want to call them that). They appear to be different shades, yes? Now, take a ruler or other thin solid object and place it over the seam between the upper and lower segments. What do you see then?




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

And for what it's worth, the dress was quire nice.

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Mar 1, 2015 10:21:16   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
JD750 wrote:
Saw this the other day, a coworker saw blue and I saw gold, on the same phone, same time, same lighting. I didn't know what it was about or have any preconceived notion of what I was supposed to see.

Photographers (should) know that cameras record color different than the human eye sees color, so why all the skepticism and negativity about this image? Apparently there is some biological reason for it. And it's a great example of how differently we are all wired!

Could there possibly be something to learn from it? Yes, for some, but alas not for others, because for them, it's a waste of energy to try to open their minds to something new because they already know everything there is to know.
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I think you are on to something here, you have used the term WIRED. As we all grow up it is said our synapses in our head connect and could it be
that some of the folks on this site may have not connected as of yet?

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Mar 1, 2015 10:33:36   #
tradergeorge Loc: Newport, Kentucky
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
If anybody has already brought this up, I apologize, but I did a pretty thorough search and it doesn't look like it. There has been a mostly friendly controversy over the actual color of a dress that has gone viral on the web (see below). The version that first appeared on the internet is the one in the middle.

When I first saw the picture, I identified the dress as white with gold trim. I saw the unmistakable blue cast, but I still identified the dress as white, just assuming that there was skylight reflected in the white since it was obviously backlit. My wife looked at the same picture and also saw a white dress with gold trim.

Later I saw the version on the right, which turns out to be correct: the actual dress is blue, with black trim.

Well, long story shorter, there has been a lot of science published on this thing (as to exactly why the dress was perceived by some as white and others as blue) but I got thinking, well duh (!), if I look closely, all I had to see (I think :shock: ) is that the background is so badly blown out on all the pictures that that would skew the colors. Right?

Well, that's what I think. :mrgreen: What do you think?
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I saw the same thing you did, but was not deluded, even for a moment. Even a rank amateur could answer the question....The correct picture was the one where everything was properly exposed. I have seen many things, especially pastels, change color radically when the lighting was changed so as to "bloom" them...

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Mar 1, 2015 10:34:27   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
If anybody has already brought this up, I apologize, but I did a pretty thorough search and it doesn't look like it. There has been a mostly friendly controversy over the actual color of a dress that has gone viral on the web (see below). The version that first appeared on the internet is the one in the middle.

When I first saw the picture, I identified the dress as white with gold trim. I saw the unmistakable blue cast, but I still identified the dress as white, just assuming that there was skylight reflected in the white since it was obviously backlit. My wife looked at the same picture and also saw a white dress with gold trim.

Later I saw the version on the right, which turns out to be correct: the actual dress is blue, with black trim.

Well, long story shorter, there has been a lot of science published on this thing (as to exactly why the dress was perceived by some as white and others as blue) but I got thinking, well duh (!), if I look closely, all I had to see (I think :shock: ) is that the background is so badly blown out on all the pictures that that would skew the colors. Right?

Well, that's what I think. :mrgreen: What do you think?
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nice article in the NYT about this. the reason the dress appears to be white with gold is the way the brain of some folks processes certain colours. not important, just the way it is "seen" by the individual.

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Mar 1, 2015 10:45:04   #
oldgeezer3 Loc: SoCal
 
An independant TV station in Los Angeles showed the middle edition of the dress against the color test picture that is aired when stations are off the air, and the result was very much more to the one on the right. I thought then that 'why all the dispute over "perception?"' A fun discussion, here though, Chuck.

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Mar 1, 2015 12:06:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
kenbar wrote:
We accept ''difraction'' when talking about using very small apertures on our lenses,here is a case of difraction on a monitor screen made up a very large number of lines to create a full screen.You can only see a correct picture when you look at the monitor straight on(90 degrees) From any other angle the light coming onto the screen is being
difracted by the makeup of the screen


Have you viewed the pic?

The viewing angle doesn't chane the color one sees in the dress pic.

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Mar 1, 2015 12:10:14   #
sumo Loc: Houston suburb
 
Rongnongno wrote:
This had to be here, right?

Who gives a rat ass about this? Frankly this type of ridiculous 'controversy' has a place: In the attic.


Hey there...old wrongopongo....is always complaining about something...be has deemed himself to be judge, jury and executioner and all things he doesn't not like.....

I tried to ignore his comments for a few hours but keep thinking about jerks like him....
i think this white/gold or blue thing is a valuable photographic lesson

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Mar 1, 2015 12:26:33   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tradergeorge wrote:
I saw the same thing you did, but was not deluded, even for a moment. Even a rank amateur could answer the question....The correct picture was the one where everything was properly exposed. I have seen many things, especially pastels, change color radically when the lighting was changed so as to "bloom" them...


Sadly you seem to have missed the point of the post.

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Mar 1, 2015 12:38:10   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
Perception, wow, look at the thoughts and reactions here !

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Mar 1, 2015 12:38:19   #
Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa
 
Whuff wrote:
Wow! This guy is extraordinarily grouchy today.


I posted this after viewing 2 similar posts on 2 separate threads only minutes apart. I just don't understand the mentality of the drive by nasty comments put out by the guy. If simple things bug the guy so much, why even belong to the forum? Okay- rant over. I'm over it now.

Walt

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Mar 1, 2015 13:01:19   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Whuff wrote:
I posted this after viewing 2 similar posts on 2 separate threads only minutes apart. I just don't understand the mentality of the drive by nasty comments put out by the guy. If simple things bug the guy so much, why even belong to the forum? Okay- rant over. I'm over it now.

Walt


Posting opinions on the web is not for the timid.

Some responders simply are not good communicators, they don't have "a pleasant bedside manner", and then there are others (Trolls) who just try to stir up controversy.

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Mar 1, 2015 13:06:18   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
Didn't have time or inclination to waste over this when seeing it before so.."whatever" but ....WELCOME BACK, CHUCK! :thumbup:
Don't leave again, play "like a duck", you can ignore the "stuff"..

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Mar 1, 2015 13:24:33   #
mcmm Loc: Kansas
 
I understand how you feel. I've read many responses to peoples questions that I wondered why they were being so mean. I know it is hard to do but ignore those people because there are so many helpful and knowledgeable people on this site that are willing to help and support your questions.
Chuck_893 wrote:
Sure, the two halves are identical. Incidentally, if you tip your screen (or stand up if you're on a desktop) you'll see that density change.

I'm sorry to have presented a ridiculosity. When I started on this site I happily jumped in with both feet, thinking I could contribute and/or learn something. What I quickly learned is that there are far too many quick-on-the-trigger types who belittle and sneer. I went away for months, but I thought I'd come back and see if anything changed.

Guess not.
Sure, the two halves are identical. Incidentally, ... (show quote)

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