This gets really good about the 10:00 min mark, there are a few former Neo Darwinian evolutionist on this video who no longer subscribe to this view any longer, and at least 3 are very well known. Play close attention when they talk about the Bacterium flagellum and it's irreducible complexity.....evidence of Intelligent Design!
Enjoy this presentation and God bless ALL who watch and receive truth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Since Michael Behe first proposed the bacterial flagellum as an irreducible complex structure this has become a centerpiece of creationist dogma. However, it doesn't hold up. Examination of other bacteria demonstrates that components of the flagellum motor network exist as independent structures doing other functions, and that gradually they fused, producing progressively more complex structures, leading eventually to the flagellum. This is similar to the blood clotting cascade, another creationist-praised irreducibly complex process. That claim aside, other organisms accomplish blood clotting with fewer components, so there goes the "irreducible" part. In fact, the individual components of the clotting cascade are merely protein degrading enzymes that can be demonstrated doing other functions in earlier species before coming together in the clotting cascade. No irreducible complexity here, merely evolution.
OldDoc wrote:
Since Michael Behe first proposed the bacterial flagellum as an irreducible complex structure this has become a centerpiece of creationist dogma. However, it doesn't hold up. Examination of other bacteria demonstrates that components of the flagellum motor network exist as independent structures doing other functions, and that gradually they fused, producing progressively more complex structures, leading eventually to the flagellum. This is similar to the blood clotting cascade, another creationist-praised irreducibly complex process. That claim aside, other organisms accomplish blood clotting with fewer components, so there goes the "irreducible" part. In fact, the individual components of the clotting cascade are merely protein degrading enzymes that can be demonstrated doing other functions in earlier species before coming together in the clotting cascade. No irreducible complexity here, merely evolution.
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In this exact video Behe talks about your opposition stance and totally destroys that theory effectively.
OldDoc wrote:
Since Michael Behe first proposed the bacterial flagellum as an irreducible complex structure this has become a centerpiece of creationist dogma. However, it doesn't hold up. Examination of other bacteria demonstrates that components of the flagellum motor network exist as independent structures doing other functions, and that gradually they fused, producing progressively more complex structures, leading eventually to the flagellum. This is similar to the blood clotting cascade, another creationist-praised irreducibly complex process. That claim aside, other organisms accomplish blood clotting with fewer components, so there goes the "irreducible" part. In fact, the individual components of the clotting cascade are merely protein degrading enzymes that can be demonstrated doing other functions in earlier species before coming together in the clotting cascade. No irreducible complexity here, merely evolution.
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In this exact video Behe talks about your opposition stance and totally destroys that theory effectively.
Racmanaz wrote:
In this exact video Behe talks about your opposition stance and totally destroys that theory effectively.
This video proves nothing.
OldDoc wrote:
Since Michael Behe first proposed the bacterial flagellum as an irreducible complex structure this has become a centerpiece of creationist dogma. However, it doesn't hold up. Examination of other bacteria demonstrates that components of the flagellum motor network exist as independent structures doing other functions, and that gradually they fused, producing progressively more complex structures, leading eventually to the flagellum. This is similar to the blood clotting cascade, another creationist-praised irreducibly complex process. That claim aside, other organisms accomplish blood clotting with fewer components, so there goes the "irreducible" part. In fact, the individual components of the clotting cascade are merely protein degrading enzymes that can be demonstrated doing other functions in earlier species before coming together in the clotting cascade. No irreducible complexity here, merely evolution.
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Sorry, Racmanaz doesn't understand any words with more than four letters. You might as well be talking to your dog about programming your HDTV.
This guys knowledge of science is at a fourth grade level!!!
randomeyes wrote:
Sorry, Racmanaz doesn't understand any words with more than four letters. You might as well be talking to your dog about programming your HDTV.
This guys knowledge of science is at a fourth grade level!!!
Yet you provide no scientific evidence because?? you have kindergarten level science education?? LOLOL You go right ahead and believe OldDocs misinformation, I will believe former Evolutionists Biologist Dean Kenyon's infoamtion who now believes in Intelligent Design because it makes more sense and random Neo Darwinian evolution is impossible. I am amazed how many people actually believe this Neo Darwinian evolution hoax, it never happen and never will.....it was never observed to happen and never will.
Anyway, hope some of you enjoyed the overwhelming information and evidence for Intelligent Design! I'm out of here and on to something else. Be blessed all! :)
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Racmanaz wrote:
Yet you provide no scientific evidence because?? you have kindergarten level science education?? LOLOL You go right ahead and believe OldDocs misinformation, I will believe former Evolutionists Biologist Dean Kenyon's infoamtion who now believes in Intelligent Design because it makes more sense and random Neo Darwinian evolution is impossible. I am amazed how many people actually believe this Neo Darwinian evolution hoax, it never happen and never will.....it was never observed to happen and never will.
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Flat out wrong. The ability to adapt thru natural selection can be observed every day in hospital labs all over the world. Why is there MERSA or C.Diff ? These are deadly bacteria that were once killed by antibiotics, They no longer are because bthey have mutated to very resistant bacteria. This is proof that life can adapt to changing environments. These killer strains were not designed they adapted.
Racmanaz wrote:
Anyway, hope some of you enjoyed the overwhelming information and evidence for Intelligent Design! I'm out of here and on to something else. Be blessed all! :)
"Overwhelming evidence"??????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AND ONE HA FOR GOOD MEASURE.
Racmanaz wrote:
Yet you provide no scientific evidence because?? you have kindergarten level science education?? LOLOL You go right ahead and believe OldDocs misinformation, I will believe former Evolutionists Biologist Dean Kenyon's infoamtion who now believes in Intelligent Design because it makes more sense and random Neo Darwinian evolution is impossible. I am amazed how many people actually believe this Neo Darwinian evolution hoax, it never happen and never will.....it was never observed to happen and never will.
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Old Doc presented scientific evidence to you, but with your lack of knowledge of science it went right over your head, as do most things.
The fact that you believe the earth is 6000 years old should end all conversations about science and logic from you.
Boy the Devil must be working overtime in his dinosaur bone factory, placing them all over, because Paleo people are finding new ones every day.
You'd better move off the topic of science and move on to another that you know nothing about!
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