Admin threatening to cut me off.
Feb 28, 2015 17:18:13 #
pounder35 wrote:
Yep. Don't ask me why. The extra "S'" has something to do with a security protocol. Maybe one of the computer nerd here can explain it. It's like when I was studying electronics back in the stone age and we were discussing transistors. Our instructor told us "Don't worry about how it works just know it works as far as turning on and off". That was good enough for me. :roll: :lol:
Your "good enough" acceptance of knowledge is probably why you know so little about physics.
Feb 28, 2015 17:23:54 #
larrypayne wrote:
That means I don't believe you.....Great.
Since you don't believe me--and you're wrong about everything--guess what that means?
Since you don't believe me--and you're wrong about everything--guess what that means?
Feb 28, 2015 17:50:57 #
slocumeddie wrote:
That means I don't believe you.....
Who really cares what you believe?
Feb 28, 2015 18:08:20 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
truthseeker wrote:
We have found some common ground. You need to exam... (show quote)
I can't speak to overprescribing. I'm sure it happens. I doubt that it's a conspiracy. I guarantee you that these drugs save lives and they make the quality of a lot of peoples lives much better.
Feb 28, 2015 18:12:27 #
thom w wrote:
I can't speak to overprescribing. I'm sure it happens. I doubt that it's a conspiracy. I guarantee you that these drugs save lives and they make the quality of a lot of peoples lives much better.
By what authority can you guarantee anything about drugs?
Feb 28, 2015 18:18:01 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
larrypayne wrote:
By what authority can you guarantee anything about drugs?
Some personal experience and knowing people with experiences with drugs. You may think mental illness doesn't exist but just ask anyone who has experienced an encounter with you.
Feb 28, 2015 18:27:21 #
larrypayne wrote:
You do, Larry.....it is important to you.....it validates you.Who really cares what you believe?
Bringing in new converts(<1 or >1) must be almost orgasmic for you.....
Someone new to gulp in your "philosophy", to share your hatreds.....
Regroup ! Your plan is not working, your cabal is not growing.....
You have simply failed once again.....
Feb 28, 2015 19:08:39 #
thom w wrote:
Some personal experience and knowing people with experiences with drugs. You may think mental illness doesn't exist but just ask anyone who has experienced an encounter with you.
So personal experience enables you to guarantee that drugs work.
Do you know anything about the placebo effect?
"The upshot is fewer new medicines available to ailing patients and more financial woes for the beleaguered pharmaceutical industry. Last November, a new type of gene therapy for Parkinson's disease, championed by the Michael J. Fox Foundation, was abruptly withdrawn from Phase II trials after unexpectedly tanking against placebo. A stem-cell startup called Osiris Therapeutics got a drubbing on Wall Street in March, when it suspended trials of its pill for Crohn's disease, an intestinal ailment, citing an "unusually high" response to placebo. Two days later, Eli Lilly broke off testing of a much-touted new drug for schizophrenia when volunteers showed double the expected level of placebo response."
A placebo is a sugar pill.
http://archive.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect?currentPage=all
Feb 28, 2015 19:11:14 #
slocumeddie wrote:
You do, Larry.....it is important to you.....it validates you.
Bringing in new converts(<1 or >1) must be almost orgasmic for you.....
Someone new to gulp in your "philosophy", to share your hatreds.....
Regroup ! Your plan is not working, your cabal is not growing.....
You have simply failed once again.....
Bringing in new converts(<1 or >1) must be almost orgasmic for you.....
Someone new to gulp in your "philosophy", to share your hatreds.....
Regroup ! Your plan is not working, your cabal is not growing.....
You have simply failed once again.....
Drugged out again, Eddie?
It shows in your eyes.
Feb 28, 2015 19:15:23 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
larrypayne wrote:
So personal experience enables you to guarantee th... (show quote)
Well I obviously don't have as much experience with mental illness as you do.
I have a little training. I'm not qualified to diagnose anybody or prescribe anything but I have definitely witnessed medications perform miracles. I've no doubt that mistakes are made, people are misdiagnosed and sometimes people react badly to medications. That does not make them a conspiracy. Depression is a killer. Before the major psych drugs some mental patients were kept restrained full time. Used properly these drugs perform wonders.
Feb 28, 2015 19:18:07 #
thom w wrote:
Well I obviously don't have as much experience with mental illness as you do.
No comments about the placebo effect?
Placebos perform higher than drugs in many cases.
Feb 28, 2015 19:27:39 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
larrypayne wrote:
No comments about the placebo effect?
Placebos perform higher than drugs in many cases.
Placebos perform higher than drugs in many cases.
Since even if the real drug had no effect it would still have the placebo effect that makes no sense.
Feb 28, 2015 19:59:11 #
thom w wrote:
Since even if the real drug had no effect it would still have the placebo effect that makes no sense.
Thom, you continue to amaze me with your inability to understand much of anything.
Of course a drug would have a placebo effect.
But for a drug to be effective, it would have to outperform a placebo (sugar pill).
Many drugs do not outperform placebos.
Therein lies the problem.
Feb 28, 2015 20:04:32 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
larrypayne wrote:
Thom, you continue to amaze me with your inability to understand much of anything.
Of course a drug would have a placebo effect.
But for a drug to be effective, it would have to outperform a placebo (sugar pill).
Many drugs do not outperform placebos.
Therein lies the problem.
Of course a drug would have a placebo effect.
But for a drug to be effective, it would have to outperform a placebo (sugar pill).
Many drugs do not outperform placebos.
Therein lies the problem.
You're reading many and interpreting it as all.
I'm actually quite glad to know we don't think alike. I would have to jump off a roof or something. I'm pretty sure there are drugs that would help you but since you think they are a conspiracy you will never know.
Feb 28, 2015 22:02:26 #
larrypayne wrote:
A warning about small drones: My wife just bought ... (show quote)
kind of an odd hobby for an older woman to take up. Maybe it is filling the void you are creating by hanging out on the computer 24/7 and neglecting her. Maybe you should join her in the fresh air, forget about 911 and take some videos. Sounds like more fun. If the drone gets lost or chewed up by coyotes, all isn't lost. You can always say the Mossad shot it down
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