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Feb 8, 2015 15:51:13   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
The tripod socket on the lens collar is also suspect - especially for 6lb. + lenses IMHO .....


so I suppose you wouldn't use a Wimberley Sidekick with a 500mm F4 then . . .

BTW - I used one for years, it was small light and very strong - easy to pack.

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Feb 8, 2015 16:02:46   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
Nikon now sells Black Rapid straps direct from Nikon, so apparently they have no worries. A while back I posted the results of my e-mail to Black Rapid posing this question. Their reply was that they were not aware of any failure of a DSLR's tripod mount from the use of their straps. I use a Black Rapid tripod mount strap on both my 6D and 7DII with no worries, even with my EF 100-400mm L II attached. About 5.5 lbs total.

Here's the link to Nikon's website advertising the BR strap.
http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0225_strap_03.htm

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Feb 8, 2015 16:03:20   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I use a BR strap with the safety features. I've never had a problem. I've never even had to tighten it. I have a Canon battery grip that it's attached to.


What size lens do you have ??

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Feb 8, 2015 16:37:39   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
so I suppose you wouldn't use a Wimberley Sidekick with a 500mm F4 then . . .

BTW - I used one for years, it was small light and very strong - easy to pack.


I would think twice - but I would also be tethering to something to quell any large unexpected movements from building inertia......

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Feb 8, 2015 16:41:25   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
I would think twice - but I would also be tethering to something to quell any large unexpected movements from building inertia......


That's what insurance is for - :) Luckily I haven't had to use it for a lens and camera that fell off it's tripod, strap, harness or any other support - knock wood. And I have used the 600 F4 with a D3S attached on a Wimberley Sidekick and Arca Swiss Z1 Ball Head - rock solid. But I wonder about that little tiny lip on the arca clamp - so far, the clamps have been fine. But I still wonder.

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Feb 8, 2015 16:50:02   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
That's what insurance is for - :) Luckily I haven't had to use it for a lens and camera that fell off it's tripod, strap, harness or any other support - knock wood. And I have used the 600 F4 with a D3S attached on a Wimberley Sidekick and Arca Swiss Z1 Ball Head - rock solid. But I wonder about that little tiny lip on the arca clamp - so far, the clamps have been fine. But I still wonder.


Yes, I just hate "wondering" !

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Feb 8, 2015 17:38:05   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I think I was the first to provide the link to the Nikon Black Rapid Strap last year. Here's a link to it again. You'll note this is on Nikon's site. They certainly seem to be supporting the idea of a tripod mounted strap.

http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0225_strap_03.htm

Here's text from the ad:

"Along with the great mobility offered by BlackRapid products through specifications that enable on-the-go shooting with a mechanism that allows the camera to slide diagonally up and down the shoulder strap, a system that utilizes the camera's tripod socket so that the camera hangs upside down for a smooth grip, a shoulder pad that effectively distributes weight for less burden, and an under-arm tether that holds the strap firmly in place, these two new straps offer an even greater sense of security with a safety strap that prevents the camera from falling in the unlikely event the fastener comes loose, and a cover that prevents the carabiner that connects the strap to the camera from scratching the camera body."
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I bought a knockoff of the BR strap and realized how poorly constructed. Instead I bought a real Op-tech. It connects to the regular strap lug, but has a second connecting strap to cameras with two lugs on the same side. I still had the sturdy tripod socket screw, so I attached the second strap to that. This gives me some mental security that if one fails, the other will still hold the camera. (You can buy the tripod socket screw alone from Black Rapid (or Amazon)

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Feb 8, 2015 19:03:09   #
GC-FineArt Loc: WDC
 
Okay, I don’t have a dog in this race -- don’t use Nikons or large heavy lenses, or the types of straps being discussed, for that matter -- but the mechanical failures mentioned by the OP make me suspect that he just might have one of the bogus MB-Dll grips for sale out there; and that is the real problem in this case, not the alleged “inherent danger” of using the tripod socket as a point of attachment for a strap per se.

Just my 2¢ anyway :)

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Feb 9, 2015 00:57:32   #
arlissd
 
MrT wrote:
MT Shooter is right again. I have a D7000 with an MB-D11 and frequently use a 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR lens. I found this great strap, SpeedCarry, it attaches to a Arca Swiss compatible quick release plate that attaches to the tripod socket. Very convenient. It keeps the quick release plate accessible and no neck strain. The problem is the camera and lens are too much weight for the screws holding the MB-D11 together. The main switch on the D7000 went out and I had to send it to Nikon for repair, they did a great job, when I tried to take the MB-D11 off, the locking dial(?) would spin but not loosen the tripod socket screw. I pushed down on it hard and finally got it removed. Upon getting the camera back from Nikon, I tried to re-attache the MB-D11 and had more difficulty. I took the MB-D11 apart expecting a problem with the locking screw and all 6 of the screws the hold the top plate of the MB-D11 together had broken screw threads. I was able to super glue them back together and reassemble the MB-D11 and reattach it to the D7000 but do not think it is a long term fix. I still like the convenience of the strap so I bought the Black Rapid ConnectR-2 and have attached it to the spring clip attached to D7000's strap lug. We will see how that goes. Lesson learned.
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By an L bracket for the camera with grip attached. Attach the strap to the L Bracket, problem solved.

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Feb 9, 2015 08:55:55   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
arlissd wrote:
By an L bracket for the camera with grip attached. Attach the strap to the L Bracket, problem solved.


The L bracket attaches to the tripod socket .....

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Feb 9, 2015 10:07:31   #
arlissd
 
imagemeister wrote:
The L bracket attaches to the tripod socket .....


Yes, but it works and causes no damage.

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Feb 9, 2015 10:45:05   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
seems the weak point can be the camera or the grip.
generally the forces on the base of a camera would be compressive and against a solid surface.

Hanging the camera by the tripod screw changes the stresses to being tensile. which you don't normally get (i guess some folks might pick up a camera with a tripod attached by the camera and not the tripod).

So what it really comes down to is what the tripod screw is attached to a solid metal frame or a piece of tin at the bottom of a plastic box. If its the later then you have a weak camera body that is more likely to be at risk.

A light plastic camera won't load it as much as a heavy slr but you might put a big lens on a light weight camera and then the lightweight body could be in trouble.

A bridge camera with a fixed lens is probably safe and designed strong enough for the stresses its likely to encounter.

probably anyway :)

If your really concerned email your camera's manufacturer and see what they recommend, if they say its fine and it breaks then at least you have it on record they said it would be ok

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