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Jan 30, 2015 11:44:13   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
Budnjax wrote:
I have the Sigma 12-24 (version 2) for Canon and it's a great lens...in fact, it beat out a Canon 14mm f/2.8L I bought and sent back when I found out the Sigma was better. I also like the Canon 8-15mm....at 15mm it's pretty much a wide angle, below 15mm a fisheye which can be pretty well converted to rectilinear with photo computer software.


Good info Budnjax thanks. I do think supporting a brand is not automatically the best solution!

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Jan 30, 2015 12:22:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DwsPV wrote:
Architect, can I ask what body you use?


Canon 7D and 10D

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Jan 30, 2015 12:41:40   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Canon 7D and 10D


Thanks!

Familiar with the 7D capabilities. Strengthens my point of view with the combination I will end up with.

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Jan 30, 2015 12:43:44   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Vivitar/Samyang 13/14mm f2.8 - look at them on ebay - about $300-350. Manual focus. Look at the reviews - great lens !

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Jan 30, 2015 13:12:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DwsPV wrote:
Thanks!

Familiar with the 7D capabilities. Strengthens my point of view with the combination I will end up with.


For what you described it really is a good lens and works with FF if you were to aquire one in the future or try a film EOS camera just for fun. I still use it once in a while on my EOS A2 film camera.

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Jan 30, 2015 14:18:20   #
Tracyv Loc: Del Mar, Ca
 
:thumbup:

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Jan 30, 2015 16:45:52   #
brrywill
 
DwsPV wrote:
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it.

Now I have to take interior photos of a hotel/lodge/conference room establishment. Fine these spaces are generally large and my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 does an OK job.

But there are nearly 100 guest rooms, and sizes vary with some rooms having 2 single beds and others having 2 double beds. The 24mm just does not get it all in.

So as a lens choice I am looking at the Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 (link below) as I can get one for the equivalent of about $800 virtually new, but its mail order so no chance to try-before-you-buy.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755358-REG/Sigma_204306_12_24mm_F4_5_5_6_EX_DG.html

I know the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 is the way to go, but it will never pay for itself in the long run.....

Any real estate/ interior design folk that have used this Sigma/ Nikon combo? Any other lens you could recommend for a full frame (FX) sensor equal to or below the $800 mark?
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it. br... (show quote)


My best recommendation would be a 20mm prime. You can get a 20mm f2.8 D for about $300 on ebay, or you could spend the entire $800 and get the new 20mm f1l8 G, which I understand is a very good lens.

I shot architecture and interiors for many years and found anything wider than 20mm (94 degree angle of view) made the room look spatially unnatural. My go-to lenses were the 21mm Super-Angulon on Leica, 20mm f2.8 on Nikon, and Hassy super-wide biogon 38mm, all giving a 90-94 degree angle of view.

You want the viewer to be able to physically enter the room and be able to relate to the photograph they have seen. An extreme wide angle photo will make the room appear larger than reality. Also, a side benefit of using the prime is the image quality is usually better than a zoom.

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Jan 31, 2015 00:51:14   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
brrywill wrote:
My best recommendation would be a 20mm prime. You can get a 20mm f2.8 D for about $300 on ebay, or you could spend the entire $800 and get the new 20mm f1l8 G, which I understand is a very good lens.

I shot architecture and interiors for many years and found anything wider than 20mm (94 degree angle of view) made the room look spatially unnatural. My go-to lenses were the 21mm Super-Angulon on Leica, 20mm f2.8 on Nikon, and Hassy super-wide biogon 38mm, all giving a 90-94 degree angle of view.

You want the viewer to be able to physically enter the room and be able to relate to the photograph they have seen. An extreme wide angle photo will make the room appear larger than reality. Also, a side benefit of using the prime is the image quality is usually better than a zoom.
My best recommendation would be a 20mm prime. You ... (show quote)



Now this is some excellent advice! I was trying to put my finger on the problem I saw with existing older images. They look unnatural and were shot at 10mm on a crop sensor.
I have looked at a few reviews now on the 20 f1.8 and I think its the way to go. Plus the filter size helps in that my existing filters are usable.

Thank you very much!

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Jan 31, 2015 01:14:07   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
No.
I do have a D3300 body, and for inside work, family stuff, and anywhere I want to do expansive photos, I use a Nikkor 10-24mm Refurbished lens I got directly from Nikon.
It had a lot of high reviews, and I can say I like mine a bunch.
But let's take a look at some shots with it.

There, finally got them to load. :roll:
Basically, I just wanted you to see a comparison of the view width. These are some early pictures I took with the lens and my on camera (pop-up) flash. Which cased the obscene shadowing. I've since gotten an off camera speedlight and get great pictures with it.
The island measures 7 foot long and 42" wide for a size reference.
Here is a link to the lens.
I also have my kit lens at 18-55mm. But got the Near Fisheye 10-24mm as a broad reaching lens for interior shots.

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@ 15mm
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Jan 31, 2015 01:39:27   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
DwsPV wrote:
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it.

Now I have to take interior photos of a hotel/lodge/conference room establishment. Fine these spaces are generally large and my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 does an OK job.

But there are nearly 100 guest rooms, and sizes vary with some rooms having 2 single beds and others having 2 double beds. The 24mm just does not get it all in.

So as a lens choice I am looking at the Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 (link below) as I can get one for the equivalent of about $800 virtually new, but its mail order so no chance to try-before-you-buy.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755358-REG/Sigma_204306_12_24mm_F4_5_5_6_EX_DG.html

I know the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 is the way to go, but it will never pay for itself in the long run.....

Any real estate/ interior design folk that have used this Sigma/ Nikon combo? Any other lens you could recommend for a full frame (FX) sensor equal to or below the $800 mark?
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it. br... (show quote)


I have to agree with DwsPV; at least give it a try if you havn't already.

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Feb 2, 2015 01:04:52   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
SonnyE wrote:
No.
I do have a D3300 body, and for inside work, family stuff, and anywhere I want to do expansive photos, I use a Nikkor 10-24mm Refurbished lens I got directly from Nikon.
It had a lot of high reviews, and I can say I like mine a bunch.
But let's take a look at some shots with it.

There, finally got them to load. :roll:
Basically, I just wanted you to see a comparison of the view width. These are some early pictures I took with the lens and my on camera (pop-up) flash. Which cased the obscene shadowing. I've since gotten an off camera speedlight and get great pictures with it.
The island measures 7 foot long and 42" wide for a size reference.
Here is a link to the lens.
I also have my kit lens at 18-55mm. But got the Near Fisheye 10-24mm as a broad reaching lens for interior shots.
No. br I do have a D3300 body, and for inside work... (show quote)


Thanks a million for the comparison SonnyE!

Sadly your lens is not an option on the D3s, but this gives me a great feel for the width and depth. I think I need to be careful shooting less than 20mm, just so that customers don't nail us for "false advertising".


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 2, 2015 01:08:00   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
SonnyE wrote:
No.
I do have a D3300 body, and for inside work, family stuff, and anywhere I want to do expansive photos, I use a Nikkor 10-24mm Refurbished lens I got directly from Nikon.
It had a lot of high reviews, and I can say I like mine a bunch.
But let's take a look at some shots with it.

There, finally got them to load. :roll:
Basically, I just wanted you to see a comparison of the view width. These are some early pictures I took with the lens and my on camera (pop-up) flash. Which cased the obscene shadowing. I've since gotten an off camera speedlight and get great pictures with it.
The island measures 7 foot long and 42" wide for a size reference.
Here is a link to the lens.
I also have my kit lens at 18-55mm. But got the Near Fisheye 10-24mm as a broad reaching lens for interior shots.
No. br I do have a D3300 body, and for inside work... (show quote)


Just looking again - on full frame, 20mm will end up somewhere between your 12 and 15mm, and if I lose a bit of curtaining on the right, I would cover the rooms here almost perfectly, while maintaining the depth of the room.

Again, thanks this was very helpful!

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Feb 2, 2015 01:12:47   #
brrywill
 
DwsPV wrote:
Now this is some excellent advice! I was trying to put my finger on the problem I saw with existing older images. They look unnatural and were shot at 10mm on a crop sensor.
I have looked at a few reviews now on the 20 f1.8 and I think its the way to go. Plus the filter size helps in that my existing filters are usable.

Thank you very much!


You are quite welcome.

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Feb 2, 2015 09:25:26   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
DwsPV wrote:
Just looking again - on full frame, 20mm will end up somewhere between your 12 and 15mm, and if I lose a bit of curtaining on the right, I would cover the rooms here almost perfectly, while maintaining the depth of the room.

Again, thanks this was very helpful!


You are very welcome.
It was just to give you a feel for the different shots at those settings. As is why I took them for myself, to get a feel for the lens.
I'm not much for the full frame VS: 1.5 cropped analogy. I'd rather say this is what you get.
Then leave it up to the viewer to compute if they will. ;)
At least Nikon gives us straight forward figures. Canoneers have to fiddle with a 1.6 comparison. :-P
Anyway, I sure like my lens!

Size for size. I believe 10mm in mine = 15mm in yours (FF).
24mm in mine = 36mm in yours. 1 to 1.5 ratio.

Have fun shopping and shooting! ;)

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Feb 2, 2015 11:54:23   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
DwsPV wrote:
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it.

Now I have to take interior photos of a hotel/lodge/conference room establishment. Fine these spaces are generally large and my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 does an OK job.

But there are nearly 100 guest rooms, and sizes vary with some rooms having 2 single beds and others having 2 double beds. The 24mm just does not get it all in.

So as a lens choice I am looking at the Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 (link below) as I can get one for the equivalent of about $800 virtually new, but its mail order so no chance to try-before-you-buy.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755358-REG/Sigma_204306_12_24mm_F4_5_5_6_EX_DG.html

I know the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 is the way to go, but it will never pay for itself in the long run.....

Any real estate/ interior design folk that have used this Sigma/ Nikon combo? Any other lens you could recommend for a full frame (FX) sensor equal to or below the $800 mark?
I have a Nikon D3s - happy as anything with it. br... (show quote)

You might try the UHH "search" menu and type "real estate photography" and you will find many postings that answer this question completely.

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