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Jan 5, 2015 08:23:18   #
davidheald1942 Loc: Mars (the planet)
 
I think most gun owners will not go along with this crap,.,.,.

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Jan 5, 2015 08:40:12   #
Salamander Loc: Taos, NM.
 
It's not a "tracking device," it is technology where a coded wrist band is connected to a particular gun so the wearer of the wrist band can operate that one gun, and without the wrist band the gun can't fire. It is a key, that's all.
No one is coming for your guns.

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Jan 5, 2015 08:40:26   #
johnrufuserickson Loc: Vernal, UT
 
that would be a violation of privacy. I am a concealed weapons holder. I do not carry guns in public but I have this permit in order to travel. In getting a concealed weapons permit I am finger printed. I have no problem with registering in this way.

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Jan 5, 2015 08:45:51   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Yep, more blame the gun, not the person crap. Until this country starts holding people accountable again we will continue to spiral down. I notice he's taking advise from Biden, who suggested one should fire warning shots into the air when feeling threatened!

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Jan 5, 2015 08:50:43   #
RCJets Loc: Virginia
 
The guns control nuts are all idiots! None of my guns have hurt anyone. Ask the guys suggesting these regulations if their bodyguards are armed or if they will fire "warning shots" if they are threatened.

It's not about the guns, it's about controlling us.

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Jan 5, 2015 08:50:49   #
dgagnon Loc: Sumter, SC now in STL, MO
 
Salamander wrote:
It's not a "tracking device," it is technology where a coded wrist band is connected to a particular gun so the wearer of the wrist band can operate that one gun, and without the wrist band the gun can't fire. It is a key, that's all.
No one is coming for your guns.



Ok well we will see how much the is going to cost the average gun owner when they have to retrofit the guns they currently have that do not have this technology.

The idea is LUDRICOUS.

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Jan 5, 2015 08:57:31   #
Dave in Utah Loc: Southern Utah
 
We all know that those who persist in breaking the laws of of the land will be the first ones in line to wear this new contraption. LOL Dave

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Jan 5, 2015 08:57:48   #
Salamander Loc: Taos, NM.
 
It's not for existing guns, it is an option that exists already for a new gun. It is not about control, or blaming guns and not people, it is an attempt, a small step in creating a safer place to live. Licensed and responsible gun owners are usually not the problem, but what to do about the problem? It exists. Innocent people are effected each day in this country by gunfire. Accidental, wrong place wrong time, however it is couched the fact remains that we as a society have problems when children are harmed just walking to school. What is there to disagree about in that?

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Jan 5, 2015 09:02:04   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
nimbushopper wrote:
Yep, more blame the gun, not the person crap. Until this country starts holding people accountable again we will continue to spiral down. I notice he's taking advise from Biden, who suggested one should fire warning shots into the air when feeling threatened!


Before the US got into WW2, Roosevelt was pleading with Americans to donate their weapons to be shipped to England because, with England's gun control, no one had guns. They were afraid that when Germany invaded, the population would not be able to fight back. As it turns out, this was not necessary. But the US shipped several shiploads of guns there. These were destroyed after the war. It seems to me that the right of the population to defend themselves is important. While I don't think that the Chinese, Koreans, or any other country we may have issues with at any given time are going to come streaming ashore here, the right to protect also holds true from home invasion, car jacking, etc. This is not to say that owning a weapon goes without responsibility, but anyone that wants to own a weapon and takes the time to learn to use it should have that ability. I have spent many years in the military and have several weapons that I know how to safely use. These are kept in safe locations is a couple of places in the house, where I can get ahold of them. The ammunition, while not loaded into the weapon, is readily accessible but in places where the grand child can not get to them. I also have a permit to carry my 9mm or my 38 Smith and Wesson. I rarely carry them, except to go to the gun range to practice.

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Jan 5, 2015 09:09:55   #
tom kf4wol
 
nimbushopper wrote:
Yep, more blame the gun, not the person crap. Until this country starts holding people accountable again we will continue to spiral down. I notice he's taking advise from Biden, who suggested one should fire warning shots into the air when feeling threatened!



Amen & Amen..



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Jan 5, 2015 09:12:38   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Before the US got into WW2, Roosevelt was pleading with Americans to donate their weapons to be shipped to England because, with England's gun control, no one had guns. They were afraid that when Germany invaded, the population would not be able to fight back. As it turns out, this was not necessary. But the US shipped several shiploads of guns there. These were destroyed after the war. It seems to me that the right of the population to defend themselves is important. While I don't think that the Chinese, Koreans, or any other country we may have issues with at any given time are going to come streaming ashore here, the right to protect also holds true from home invasion, car jacking, etc. This is not to say that owning a weapon goes without responsibility, but anyone that wants to own a weapon and takes the time to learn to use it should have that ability. I have spent many years in the military and have several weapons that I know how to safely use. These are kept in safe locations is a couple of places in the house, where I can get ahold of them. The ammunition, while not loaded into the weapon, is readily accessible but in places where the grand child can not get to them. I also have a permit to carry my 9mm or my 38 Smith and Wesson. I rarely carry them, except to go to the gun range to practice.
Before the US got into WW2, Roosevelt was pleading... (show quote)


I totally agree with you! Lawful gun owners have to be held accountable too if their firearms fall into the wrong hands. Most of the ridiculous suggestions(like the one posted) come from persons who know nothing about and have no experience with firearms.

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Jan 5, 2015 10:36:07   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Salamander wrote:
It's not for existing guns, it is an option that exists already for a new gun. It is not about control, or blaming guns and not people, it is an attempt, a small step in creating a safer place to live. Licensed and responsible gun owners are usually not the problem, but what to do about the problem? It exists. Innocent people are effected each day in this country by gunfire. Accidental, wrong place wrong time, however it is couched the fact remains that we as a society have problems when children are harmed just walking to school. What is there to disagree about in that?
It's not for existing guns, it is an option that e... (show quote)


Gun owners tend to go to the irrational side when anything is mentioned about guns. They don't know, nor do they want to know about the number of accidental gun killings and maimings by "responsible" gun owners. It's been shown that if you have a gun in your house, there's a higher percentage that you will have a shooting in your house. Some gun owners think that the US has the lowest number of people shot. We are a third world country when it comes to guns.

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Jan 5, 2015 10:47:11   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
dljen wrote:
Gun owners tend to go to the irrational side when anything is mentioned about guns. They don't know, nor do they want to know about the number of accidental gun killings and maimings by "responsible" gun owners. It's been shown that if you have a gun in your house, there's a higher percentage that you will have a shooting in your house. Some gun owners think that the US has the lowest number of people shot. We are a third world country when it comes to guns.


Donna, you're wrong! The "responsible" gun owners you are referring to are not responsible. Just because they might have legally owned the gun doesn't make them responsible. The most egregious example is the Newtown murderer's mother who allowed her deranged son access to her legally owned guns. Your anti-gun crowd refuses to recognize the number of times a year a firearm is used to protect oneself.

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Jan 5, 2015 10:56:26   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
nimbushopper wrote:
Donna, you're wrong! The "responsible" gun owners you are referring to are not responsible. Just because they might have legally owned the gun doesn't make them responsible. The most egregious example is the Newtown murderer's mother who allowed her deranged son access to her legally owned guns. Your anti-gun crowd refuses to recognize the number of times a year a firearm is used to protect oneself.


You're guessing is off, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-idiots-who own guns, I'm anti-mentally-ill-people who own guns. I'm not anti-gun at all or I'd be against my brothers. One's a collector of firearms and the others hunt regularly.

Last year a female sheriff let her daughter get hold of her gun and shoot it at, I believe, a sibling. Most recently, a sheriff in Georgia "accidentally" shot his wife. Would you consider people in law enforcement "responsible?" As I stated in my post, most gun owners haven't the slightest idea how many "accidents" happen by "responsible" gun owners. They block this out because they don't want to know.

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Jan 5, 2015 11:09:16   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
dljen wrote:
You're guessing is off, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-idiots-who own guns, I'm anti-mentally-ill-people who own guns. I'm not anti-gun at all or I'd be against my brothers. One's a collector of firearms and the others hunt regularly.

Last year a female sheriff let her daughter get hold of her gun and shoot it at, I believe, a sibling. Most recently, a sheriff in Georgia "accidentally" shot his wife. Would you consider people in law enforcement "responsible?" As I stated in my post, most gun owners haven't the slightest idea how many "accidents" happen by "responsible" gun owners. They block this out because they don't want to know.
You're guessing is off, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti... (show quote)


I don't disagree with you about stupid people. Being in law enforcement doesn't automatically make one responsible! If that police chief really had his handgun in bed (totally stupid and unnecessary) then he clearly was not being responsible. The same with the sheriff you referred to. Guns just don't fire on their own, the trigger has to be pulled! I'm just saying that you're wrong to call these examples responsible gun owners.

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