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Jan 1, 2015 10:27:48   #
Dick Z. Loc: Downers Grove IL
 
Canoe50d wrote:
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wish to do). I have a simple program from Picasa that allows me to crop and make small adjustments. I've never shot RAW and up to now I am ok with that as well. I recently shot a wedding for a friend and I shot Raw as well as Jpeg for them. I would like to see what I can do with a raw file (been hearing for years that I should). Picasa wont work with raw. Wondering what affordable programs you use that are easy to get to know and not like landing the space shuttle. Please try to avoid responding outside of those guidelines and please don't correct or comment on others post. I just want a few suggestions as a reason why you like or don't like. thank you in advance.
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Canoe50d, I find most Jpegs fine but sometimes the color isn't just right. Raw, gives complete control of color temperature. I use the program that came with my camera to convert Raw files to Jpeg or sometimes "Tiff". I find the free version allows me to make all the adjustments I need.
I use an old Photoshop program to make other adjustments such as cropping, cloning, sizing or other minor adjustments.
You should get many answers from others on UHH, good luck.

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Jan 1, 2015 10:46:36   #
Shakey Loc: Traveling again to Norway and other places.
 
Canoe50d wrote:
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wish to do). I have a simple program from Picasa that allows me to crop and make small adjustments. I've never shot RAW and up to now I am ok with that as well. I recently shot a wedding for a friend and I shot Raw as well as Jpeg for them. I would like to see what I can do with a raw file (been hearing for years that I should). Picasa wont work with raw. Wondering what affordable programs you use that are easy to get to know and not like landing the space shuttle. Please try to avoid responding outside of those guidelines and please don't correct or comment on others post. I just want a few suggestions as a reason why you like or don't like. thank you in advance.
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wis... (show quote)


Try 'Lightzone', it's a free program and produces excellent results. Download it here: http://lightzoneproject.org/

Youtube tutorials can be found here, you can check out what it does. http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGob3KtUcRJqz-GwA5Owbdg

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Jan 1, 2015 10:52:12   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Gene51 wrote:
The most affordable program is the Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom subscription. Many may try to steer you away from this for a variety of reasons - too long a learning curve, too expensive (by those who are bad at math), don't want to be held hostage by Big Bad Adobe, etc. None of these naysayers have tried it.

But one fact remains - no one who has tried the subscription has posted that they didn't like it and went back to PSE, CS6 etc etc etc.

Yes, there is a learning curve. But you can learn what you need to do what you want to do now, and still have lots of capability for future expansion.

I suggest you start with Lightroom simply because it has the shortest learning curve. The only thing that most have issues with is the catalog system, which I can explain to you in about 15 minutes. Once you "get it" it will make sense. The editor is the same found in Photoshop, but the user interface is easier and faster to use. If you did a wedding, as I do on occasion, you will be amazed how quickly you can make proofs from 1100 images just using Lighroom - on average, it takes me a little over 2 hours, plus another 30 mins to upload to the client side of my website. The results are consistent, even illumination, and provided I did not overexpose any images, nice highlights and shadow detail.

Another excellent alternative is Capture One from PhaseOne - if I were primarily a portrait and human subject shooter, this would be my go to software, together with PS. Colors and skin tones are its primary strengths.

DXO Optics Pro 10 - another excellent raw converter. The best noise reduction, sharpening and lens profiles in the industry. And it can do something no other program can do - repair volume anamorphosis - the elongation and distortion that occurs when you use an ultrawideangle lens and you have subjects near the edges that become stretched and weird looking.
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The most affordable is free, and while lightroom and photoshop do have one of the best raw processors around (you mention others in your post and I respect your judgement on these). Chances are at some point if you process raw you will end up buying/ renting one or more of these programs.

That being said, the brief wasn't to buy the best but for a relatively simple and cheap raw processing program.

As a simple analogy lets say your daughter wants a pony, she probably hasn't been on one yet but girls do seem to have a thing about ponies. Do you buy her a pony? Maybe you will at some point but wouldn't you consider enrolling at a riding school first.

perhaps your feeling a bit bloated after the Christmas festivity's (and happy new year to you too) would you get a gym membership or perhaps start with a few individual sessions first?

Do you get my point? Lightroom and Photoshop are not going away anytime soon. In 6 months or a year you can still get them for $9.99 a month.

I could have been subscribing for the last 12 months, and recently I was considering subscribing until I found that I would be paying more for it than you would. Which is why i'm still looking at alternatives. Adobes DNG converter which is free can convert raw files to a supported DNG version if need be.

As a professional making your living from selling your images, get the best, it's a business expense- and probably tax deductible. For an amateur who takes photographs for the love of it, its an additional cost.

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Jan 1, 2015 11:01:56   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
blackest wrote:
The most affordable is free, and while lightroom and photoshop do have one of the best raw processors around (you mention others in your post and I respect your judgement on these). Chances are at some point if you process raw you will end up buying/ renting one or more of these programs.

That being said, the brief wasn't to buy the best but for a relatively simple and cheap raw processing program.

As a simple analogy lets say your daughter wants a pony, she probably hasn't been on one yet but girls do seem to have a thing about ponies. Do you buy her a pony? Maybe you will at some point but wouldn't you consider enrolling at a riding school first.

perhaps your feeling a bit bloated after the Christmas festivity's (and happy new year to you too) would you get a gym membership or perhaps start with a few individual sessions first?

Do you get my point? Lightroom and Photoshop are not going away anytime soon. In 6 months or a year you can still get them for $9.99 a month.

I could have been subscribing for the last 12 months, and recently I was considering subscribing until I found that I would be paying more for it than you would. Which is why i'm still looking at alternatives. Adobes DNG converter which is free can convert raw files to a supported DNG version if need be.

As a professional making your living from selling your images, get the best, it's a business expense- and probably tax deductible. For an amateur who takes photographs for the love of it, its an additional cost.
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My point was, it's cheap - $10/mo - the cost of 5 8x10 photos printed at Costco. Other than the free stuff that is out there and can be frustrating to use, the PS/LR bundle is a real bargain. I am sure much more was spent on lenses and a camera and a tripod etc. PS/LR is not just for working pros - it's taught in nearly every school that offers photo and creative graphics courses as well.

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Jan 1, 2015 11:12:52   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
robertjerl wrote:
Your camera should have come with a disk that has a simple editing program that works with its form of RAW.

Or get Photo Shop Elements 13 for less than $100 from Costco or Sam's Club. Walmart is selling off remaining copies of PSE 12 online for a few buck off.

It has a "Guided" mode where you pick from a list of things to do and it then takes you through the process step by step.


There are several fine Open Source apps that are multi-platform that won't cost you a dime. Try UFRaw or Raw Therapee.
I'm now using LightZone and can't recommend it more highly. It's very intuitive, easier to learn than others, does a better job on the image than most, won't cost you a dime, will work on your platform and has a built in raw decoder.

Try it, if you don't like it, uninstall it.

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Jan 1, 2015 11:16:15   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
Adobe raw converter

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Jan 1, 2015 12:22:08   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Canoe50d wrote:
I have that loaded, but cant find anyplace to crop.


Trimming angle?? See it now? That's where you crop. DPP is an awkward program to use but it will get the job done. PSE 5 will not work on your raw images because it doesn't support modern cameras. In fact, I doubt if it even has a raw editor built into it. You need to choose a program and stick with it as long as you can because it takes work to figure out how to use them. You will only confuse yourself if you are trying different programs. As mentioned above, you should try one of these programs:

1. Adobe PSE13 about $70-$90
2. Adobe LR5 about $150
3. Adobe CC for photographers which includes PhotoshopCC and LR5 for $9.99/month

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Jan 1, 2015 12:58:06   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Canoe50d wrote:
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wish to do). I have a simple program from Picasa that allows me to crop and make small adjustments. I've never shot RAW and up to now I am ok with that as well. I recently shot a wedding for a friend and I shot Raw as well as Jpeg for them. I would like to see what I can do with a raw file (been hearing for years that I should). Picasa wont work with raw. Wondering what affordable programs you use that are easy to get to know and not like landing the space shuttle. Please try to avoid responding outside of those guidelines and please don't correct or comment on others post. I just want a few suggestions as a reason why you like or don't like. thank you in advance.
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wis... (show quote)



I would suggest three options, all are free and there are help and tutorials available to assist you if you need it. If you decide you like working in raw you can purchase a wide variety of different programs that support RAW.

- RAWTherapee available at http://rawtherapee.com/downloads/
- LightZone available at http://lightzoneproject.org/
- Serif PhotoPlus (free version) http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/

If you want to purchase a program you could try Corel PaintShop Pro X6 or the newer X7 which is relatively inexpensive and is popular as an alternative to Photoshop.

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Jan 1, 2015 13:05:58   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
You can download 30 day free trails of Lightroom or Corel AfterShot Pro and try processing raw with them. Both are fine programs for processing raw files.

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Jan 1, 2015 14:31:57   #
OonlyBonly
 
Canoe50d wrote:
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wish to do). I have a simple program from Picasa that allows me to crop and make small adjustments. I've never shot RAW and up to now I am ok with that as well. I recently shot a wedding for a friend and I shot Raw as well as Jpeg for them. I would like to see what I can do with a raw file (been hearing for years that I should). Picasa wont work with raw. Wondering what affordable programs you use that are easy to get to know and not like landing the space shuttle. Please try to avoid responding outside of those guidelines and please don't correct or comment on others post. I just want a few suggestions as a reason why you like or don't like. thank you in advance.
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What make of camera? As one poster said you should have received an editing program with the camera. Most of them are more than sufficient for over 90% of what most people need to do.
If you didn't get one I suggest you download the correct one for your make of camera from their website - at least I know Canon provides this capability and I'm pretty sure the other major brands do also.

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Jan 1, 2015 15:16:59   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Canoe50d wrote:
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wish to do). I have a simple program from Picasa that allows me to crop and make small adjustments. I've never shot RAW and up to now I am ok with that as well. I recently shot a wedding for a friend and I shot Raw as well as Jpeg for them. I would like to see what I can do with a raw file (been hearing for years that I should). Picasa wont work with raw. Wondering what affordable programs you use that are easy to get to know and not like landing the space shuttle. Please try to avoid responding outside of those guidelines and please don't correct or comment on others post. I just want a few suggestions as a reason why you like or don't like. thank you in advance.
for yrs I've used very little post (its what I wis... (show quote)


You can get a copy of Corel Paintbrush Pro for about $40. It handles the raw files and is much easier to learn, but no less powerful, than Photoshop Elements.

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Jan 1, 2015 17:24:23   #
kayakbob Loc: Placerville, CA
 
Digital Photo Professional does have straightening and cropping, I believe the keyboard shortcut is Alt + C, Menu Tap is Trimming or something to that effect.
You may want to try Corel's PaintShop Pro & AfterShot Pro, you can download 30 Day Trails from their Web Site.
AfterShot Pro is their competitor to Lightroom, l find it renders faster than Lightroom 4, and you can switch between "Catalogs" without having to restart the Program as you do with Lightroom.
Paint Shop Pro also has a Script Text Editor as well the typical Key Stoke/Mouse Click Macro Recorder.
As far as I am aware PS Elements does not record Macros aka Actions, but can run PS Actions if PS Elements also supports the functionality.

Bob

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Jan 1, 2015 17:30:51   #
tomw
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
For minor editing (exposure, contrast, color saturation, sharpness), I use free FastStone Image Viewer v5.3 http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm


I second the recommendation of FastStone. Free and intuitive.

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Jan 1, 2015 18:44:29   #
dandi Loc: near Seattle, WA
 
tomw wrote:
I second the recommendation of FastStone. Free and intuitive.


I also would recommend FastStone, free, easy to use and quite powerful. I tried several of them, this is my favorite. If I need to work with layers - then Photoshop, otherwise FastStone works well for me.

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Jan 1, 2015 19:44:58   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
wlgoode wrote:
There are several fine Open Source apps that are multi-platform that won't cost you a dime. Try UFRaw or Raw Therapee.
I'm now using LightZone and can't recommend it more highly. It's very intuitive, easier to learn than others, does a better job on the image than most, won't cost you a dime, will work on your platform and has a built in raw decoder.

Try it, if you don't like it, uninstall it.


Don't try LightZone if you hate your money and are aching to get rid of it!!!

If you hate your money and are aching to get rid of it, buy one of the others that will be harder to use and may give you a lesser result. I can't give enough praise to this app. I've tried Fast Stone, easier than PS, LR or GIMP. LightZone is easier than Fast Stone and gives better results.

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