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Dec 30, 2014 14:05:41   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
minniev wrote:
Environmental: Inspired to dig this out by SS and Graham S's nighttime environmental photos. Over processed on purpose because this is how the Starlight feels to me - it's my favorite hangout when visiting Big Bend NP.

Are the vehicles superfluous or important elements?


I'm posting a shot that your shot reminded me of.
I've never considered this to be an environmental shot, probably since at any given time the cars can be gone and it doesn't involve any people. But it's a shot were the cars make the environment and like Vegas it's really only worth shooting after dark. ;-)
SS


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Dec 30, 2014 14:11:06   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Sometimes I want to add more motion to a shot. Used a slow shutter speed to capture the environment of a run.


ds, that is what is called, "dragging the shutter"! ;-)
SS

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Dec 30, 2014 14:17:23   #
Nightski
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Sometimes I want to add more motion to a shot. Used a slow shutter speed to capture the environment of a run.


What speed were you using? If you go too long they disappear completely. This is a powerful shot ... thinking of the Boston Marathon terrorist attacks ... it looks like the runners are ghosts.

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Dec 30, 2014 14:29:55   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I'm posting a shot that your shot reminded me of.
I've never considered this to be an environmental shot, probably since at any given time the cars can be gone and it doesn't involve any people. But it's a shot were the cars make the environment and like Vegas it's really only worth shooting after dark. ;-)
SS


And yours makes me think of this one. Now we are playing photo dominoes, one of my favorite games that I never see done here!

I just don't take that many pictures that have any people in them, so this whole exercise is pretty interesting. I'm forever waiting for the people to LEAVE and get out of the frame. (unless they are interesting people which most of us aren't)


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Dec 30, 2014 14:31:20   #
ediesaul
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I'm posting a shot that your shot reminded me of.
I've never considered this to be an environmental shot, probably since at any given time the cars can be gone and it doesn't involve any people. But it's a shot were the cars make the environment and like Vegas it's really only worth shooting after dark. ;-)
SS


Great shot of Edwards Cinema! Love the reflections off the cars. If the titles of the movies were drawn in so we could read them, then the shot would be perfect in my eyes.

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Dec 30, 2014 14:32:52   #
ediesaul
 
minniev wrote:
And yours makes me think of this one. Now we are playing photo dominoes, one of my favorite games that I never see done here!

I just don't take that many pictures that have any people in them, so this whole exercise is pretty interesting. I'm forever waiting for the people to LEAVE and get out of the frame. (unless they are interesting people which most of us aren't)


Love the camera angle, the effects, the colors. Reminds me of an architectural rendering.

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Dec 30, 2014 14:53:05   #
Clive22 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
bebo1998 wrote:
I went back into my file to get your answer - it appears as though the flash is the difference.

#1 was taken w/flash @28mm

I am posting a shot of the same area taken w/o flash 1 min. later (taken while he was at the fire)

#2 was taken (when he returned -1 more min.) w/o flash @28mm - that is why there is a slight shift in POV.


Thanks. So, that changed the white balance produced a lot less reds, or warmth. The metal looks almost malleable without the flash! Or something. lol.

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Dec 30, 2014 14:59:50   #
Nightski
 
bebo1998 wrote:
I went back into my file to get your answer - it appears as though the flash is the difference.

#1 was taken w/flash @28mm

I am posting a shot of the same area taken w/o flash 1 min. later (taken while he was at the fire)

#2 was taken (when he returned -1 more min.) w/o flash @28mm - that is why there is a slight shift in POV.


For me that is just another vote for natural light.

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Dec 30, 2014 15:50:14   #
bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area
 
Nightski wrote:
For me that is just another vote for natural light.


I agree, Ms. Nightski

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Dec 30, 2014 15:51:31   #
bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area
 
Clive22 wrote:
Thanks. So, that changed the white balance produced a lot less reds, or warmth. The metal looks almost malleable without the flash! Or something. lol.


Or something - HAH! I'm sooo tired.....zzzzzzzzzzzz

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Dec 30, 2014 16:00:48   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
A tight crop but it retains enough of the environment to give context.


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Dec 30, 2014 16:05:59   #
bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area
 
Graham Smith wrote:
A tight crop but it retains enough of the environment to give context.


Graham - I am bowing down to you. This takes my breath away.

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Dec 30, 2014 16:13:31   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
bebo1998 wrote:
Graham - I am bowing down to you. This takes my breath away.


Hello bebo, it is a picture that anybody could have taken, nothing technically difficult about it at all. The secret lies in "seeing" the picture in the first place. Developing an "eye" is more than half the battle.

Graham

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Dec 30, 2014 16:45:45   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
SharpShooter wrote:
ds, that is what is called, "dragging the shutter"! ;-)
SS


That's real old school :-)

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Dec 30, 2014 17:57:25   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
I won't be home at my computer till late tonite. At that time I will layout all the ground work for our last phase so I can post examples in an attempt to make it clear!! That has proven to be elusive at times! :lol:
We can spend the rest of the time posting what we've learned and solidifying what we've been over.
Some of our examples have been exemplary and others it appears have missed their marks, meaning we need to become more clear on what the catagories mean or represent.
In preparation for our next phase, you may want to think about what images you have that incorporate multiple aspects to creat the final story/composition.
Keep in mind that our image can tell as much of a story as we want, or it can let the viewer complete their own story as in the case of a simple graphic depiction. Many images will conjure up a different story for different viewers.
But let's keep in mind that these images will incorporate various aspects that we've covered, so in theory they will not be basic and simple images.
It's been a very good ride so far!!

With that, feel free to post your examples of what we've already covered and/or discuss them!! :thumbup:
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