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Dec 21, 2014 11:25:41   #
worldguy03
 
Arthur Morris' blog today has an informative writeup on blurs using ND filters.
I follow UHH & him daily. Also has had some good recent info on the 7D 2. A great teacher.

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Dec 21, 2014 11:38:12   #
photoshack Loc: Irvine, CA
 
Lots of advice already given; I use ND filters when I am forced to, and a good ($200) variable ND filter works fine if you are able to

- set your camera's live view to not show the effect of the aperture so you can still see what you are focusing on
- alternatively focus first at the lowest ND and then progressively dial in more density
- have your tripod mount sandbagged if you are using a long lens, and the lens collar mounted so it is more stable
- use your trigger release with camera in bulb mode, a release with an intervalometer is really handy

The best is to get out when the sun has set or has not risen and use the lack of light to your advantage....less fiddling with filters :-)


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Dec 21, 2014 16:40:38   #
LRNAV Loc: Bath, Ontario. Canada
 
Thanks Photo Shack; Your tips make a lot of sense. When added to all the previous advice I think I am lot more confident that I was at the start of this thread

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Dec 21, 2014 18:40:42   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
LRNAV wrote:
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly experienced photographer going back to the 1950's. That does not of course mean I am a great or even good photographer. I consider myself to be more of an enthusiast than an expert. But I am even in my mid 80's still very much a learner.
I have recently admired the the work of a Canadian photographer who works with very long exposures. His name escapes me at the moment, (that, I hope, is just a senior moment).
I have just recently bought a variable ND filter and wonder if any forum members could give me some guidance on how to best achieve those wonderful soft water and blurred cloud effects. I have 'googled' and found only very cursory or confusing advice.
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Dick K.
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly expe... (show quote)


the standard rule among we photographers (film) is 1/8th second and adjust, in your case, iso and aperture accordingly

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Dec 22, 2014 00:33:16   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
Filter are cheap if you bye them used ,i bye for about $4.00 two
$6.00. try calling campus camera in kent ohio if you want two get some cool afects take an old filter and coat the filter with nail polish leaving the center on coated about the size of a dime you can also use vasolene.

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Dec 22, 2014 08:34:53   #
LRNAV Loc: Bath, Ontario. Canada
 
Carl: Boy that is cheap.

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Dec 22, 2014 09:24:49   #
photoshack Loc: Irvine, CA
 
carl hervol wrote:
Filter are cheap if you bye them used ,i bye for about $4.00 two
$6.00. try calling campus camera in kent ohio if you want two get some cool afects take an old filter and coat the filter with nail polish leaving the center on coated about the size of a dime you can also use vasolene.


I think we were talking about long exposure though. Yes, putting things on the front of your lens can make cool effects. I used to use the cardboard negative crop guides that the labs provided and sandwich ladies nylons in them, with matchtip melted holes in the center which made a fine soft focus filter....back in the film pre-photoshop days of course.

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Dec 22, 2014 09:36:27   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
LRNAV wrote:
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly experienced photographer going back to the 1950's. That does not of course mean I am a great or even good photographer. I consider myself to be more of an enthusiast than an expert. But I am even in my mid 80's still very much a learner.
I have recently admired the the work of a Canadian photographer who works with very long exposures. His name escapes me at the moment, (that, I hope, is just a senior moment).
I have just recently bought a variable ND filter and wonder if any forum members could give me some guidance on how to best achieve those wonderful soft water and blurred cloud effects. I have 'googled' and found only very cursory or confusing advice.
Thanks
Dick K.
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly expe... (show quote)

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Dick, if you remain shooting with film, don't forget to add extra exposure time due to reciprocity, but if you are shooting in digital, most shutter speeds slower than 1 second will give the effects that you want. Of course, it also slightly depends upon the speed of the water flow..

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Dec 22, 2014 09:38:51   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
LRNAV wrote:
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly experienced photographer going back to the 1950's. That does not of course mean I am a great or even good photographer. I consider myself to be more of an enthusiast than an expert. But I am even in my mid 80's still very much a learner.
I have recently admired the the work of a Canadian photographer who works with very long exposures. His name escapes me at the moment, (that, I hope, is just a senior moment).
I have just recently bought a variable ND filter and wonder if any forum members could give me some guidance on how to best achieve those wonderful soft water and blurred cloud effects. I have 'googled' and found only very cursory or confusing advice.
Thanks
Dick K.
Hi ALL; I am new to the forum but am a fairly expe... (show quote)

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I'd suggest that you also purchase Singh Ray neutral density filters as they are the best !

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Dec 22, 2014 15:54:28   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
treadwl wrote:
I always use a cable release---or in a pinch the self timer.
In addition to a wireless release, I use Mirror Up (MUp) to reduce vibration

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Dec 25, 2014 10:59:17   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
I am also a senior who is an enthusiastic photographer. The issue notes with the "X" in the middle of variable ND filters occurs with certain camera sensors, not all, just some. From what I have read, it has to do with the sensor architecture and pixel placement. Put the filter on your camera and takes some shots, if you get the dreaded "X", send it back and get some regular filters.

For using long exposures, set the exposure without the filter using the auto focus. Switch off the auto focus, and use a $0.99 app on your phone called ND Timer. It will calculate the exposure time and set up a count down timer so you when to stop the exposure. Don't change the exposure by changing the f-stop, only the shutter speed.

Have fun and good luck.


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Dec 26, 2014 12:49:42   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
jimvanells wrote:
I am also a senior who is an enthusiastic photographer. The issue notes with the "X" in the middle of variable ND filters occurs with certain camera sensors, not all, just some. From what I have read, it has to do with the sensor architecture and pixel placement. Put the filter on your camera and takes some shots, if you get the dreaded "X", send it back and get some regular filters.

For using long exposures, set the exposure without the filter using the auto focus. Switch off the auto focus, and use a $0.99 app on your phone called ND Timer. It will calculate the exposure time and set up a count down timer so you when to stop the exposure. Don't change the exposure by changing the f-stop, only the shutter speed.

Have fun and good luck.
I am also a senior who is an enthusiastic photogra... (show quote)
for those without the app, ND Timer works great, most all nd filters come with a chart. The chart with Lee filters is right on the ND Timer results.

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