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Dec 16, 2014 12:13:40   #
Willy Loc: Alaska
 
bull drink water wrote:
yesterday, jimmy swaggart says that the bible says that God will restore to Israel a large chunk of several neighboring countrys. I wonder how many others picked up on it, and how the news will be received over there?????????????? reminds me of the time when a noted televangelist said that the jews were going to hell, because they weren't saved.


Rumor has it that Mr. Swaggart has been hospitalized with severe injuries.
Apparently he was out walking his duck and got hit by a boat.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:49:54   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
I read that after Swaggarts sexual disclosure, his contributions dropped from $2M per week to $1 M per week. Astounding that folks would still send money to this obvious hypocrite.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:50:18   #
Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA
 
Wellhiem wrote:
Well if it says it the bible, it must be true.

Bible and internet, must be true.

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Dec 16, 2014 13:01:55   #
Ransch Loc: O'Fallon MO
 
dljen wrote:
Hmmmmm, I thought he died.


Not yet.

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Dec 16, 2014 14:14:27   #
cneajna Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
kwils wrote:
Where? There is a Christian Photo Forum. I do not see nor have I heard that discussions on religion are to be restricted to a separate forum from general chit-chat.


The Attic is where controversial topics go.

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Dec 16, 2014 14:16:17   #
cneajna Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
bull drink water wrote:
yesterday, jimmy swaggart says that the bible says that God will restore to Israel a large chunk of several neighboring countrys. I wonder how many others picked up on it, and how the news will be received over there?????????????? reminds me of the time when a noted televangelist said that the jews were going to hell, because they weren't saved.


And apparently Bryan Fischer thinks Jesus is okay with torture and says Christianity is not a pacifist religion. LOL Well for some that may be true.... but I'm pretty sure if you were able to ask Jesus he might not agree.

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Dec 16, 2014 14:44:31   #
kwils Loc: Salem, Ma
 
cneajna wrote:
The Attic is where controversial topics go.


Thanks, but is religion a controversial subject? You're discussing it now in chit -chat.

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Dec 16, 2014 14:49:21   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
bull drink water wrote:
yesterday, jimmy swaggart says that the bible says that God will restore to Israel a large chunk of several neighboring countrys. I wonder how many others picked up on it, and how the news will be received over there?????????????? reminds me of the time when a noted televangelist said that the jews were going to hell, because they weren't saved.


I did not know who Jimmy Swaggart was and I now checked in the Internet. There is this interesting tidbit in Wikipedia:
<<Swaggart's confession and downfall[edit]
On February 21, 1988, without giving any details regarding his transgressions, Swaggart gave his now-infamous "I have sinned" speech as he tearfully spoke to his family, congregation, TV audience, and finally said "I have sinned against You, my Lord, and I would ask that Your Precious Blood would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God's forgetfulness, not to be remembered against me anymore."[10] On a New Orleans morning news show four days later, Murphree stated that while Swaggart was a regular client, they had never engaged in sexual intercourse.[11] The clip of Swaggart's confession was played repeatedly on news and tabloid television programs.

The Louisiana presbytery of the Assemblies of God initially suspended Jimmy Swaggart from the ministry for three months. The national presbytery of the Assemblies of God soon extended the suspension to their standard two-year suspension for sexual immorality. His return to the pulpit coincided with the end of a three-month suspension originally ordered by the Assemblies. Believing that Swaggart was not genuinely repentant in submitting to their authority, the hierarchy of the Assemblies of God immediately defrocked him, removing his credentials and ministerial license. Swaggart then became an independent, non-denominational Pentecostal minister, and Family Worship Center became non-denominational. Jimmy Swaggart Bible College (now World Evangelism Bible College) had lost many of its students by the end of May 1988.>>

<<1991 scandal[edit]
On October 11, 1991, Swaggart, for a second time, was found in the company of a prostitute, this time Rosemary Garcia, when he was pulled over by a police officer in Indio, California, for driving on the wrong side of the road. According to Garcia, Swaggart stopped to proposition her on the side of the road. She later told reporters, "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prostitute."[12] This time, rather than confessing to his congregation, Swaggart told those at Family Worship Center that "The Lord told me it's flat none of your business."[13] Swaggart's son Donnie then announced to the stunned audience that his father would be temporarily stepping down as head of Jimmy Swaggart Ministries for "a time of healing and counseling."[12]>>

I guess he has had a comeback. :)

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Dec 16, 2014 15:03:59   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
bunuweld wrote:
I did not know who Jimmy Swaggart was and I now checked in the Internet. There is this interesting tidbit in Wikipedia:
<<Swaggart's confession and downfall[edit]
On February 21, 1988, without giving any details regarding his transgressions, Swaggart gave his now-infamous "I have sinned" speech as he tearfully spoke to his family, congregation, TV audience, and finally said "I have sinned against You, my Lord, and I would ask that Your Precious Blood would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God's forgetfulness, not to be remembered against me anymore."[10] On a New Orleans morning news show four days later, Murphree stated that while Swaggart was a regular client, they had never engaged in sexual intercourse.[11] The clip of Swaggart's confession was played repeatedly on news and tabloid television programs.

The Louisiana presbytery of the Assemblies of God initially suspended Jimmy Swaggart from the ministry for three months. The national presbytery of the Assemblies of God soon extended the suspension to their standard two-year suspension for sexual immorality. His return to the pulpit coincided with the end of a three-month suspension originally ordered by the Assemblies. Believing that Swaggart was not genuinely repentant in submitting to their authority, the hierarchy of the Assemblies of God immediately defrocked him, removing his credentials and ministerial license. Swaggart then became an independent, non-denominational Pentecostal minister, and Family Worship Center became non-denominational. Jimmy Swaggart Bible College (now World Evangelism Bible College) had lost many of its students by the end of May 1988.>>

<<1991 scandal[edit]
On October 11, 1991, Swaggart, for a second time, was found in the company of a prostitute, this time Rosemary Garcia, when he was pulled over by a police officer in Indio, California, for driving on the wrong side of the road. According to Garcia, Swaggart stopped to proposition her on the side of the road. She later told reporters, "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prostitute."[12] This time, rather than confessing to his congregation, Swaggart told those at Family Worship Center that "The Lord told me it's flat none of your business."[13] Swaggart's son Donnie then announced to the stunned audience that his father would be temporarily stepping down as head of Jimmy Swaggart Ministries for "a time of healing and counseling."[12]>>

I guess he has had a comeback. :)
I did not know who Jimmy Swaggart was and I now ch... (show quote)


Tammy Fay has too :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dec 16, 2014 15:29:22   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
kwils wrote:
Thanks, but is religion a controversial subject? You're discussing it now in chit -chat.


Religion isn't controversial at all. Prime v. Zoom, on the other hand.......

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Dec 16, 2014 16:36:45   #
tommyf Loc: Vero Beach, FL
 
kwils wrote:
Where? There is a Christian Photo Forum. I do not see nor have I heard that discussions on religion are to be restricted to a separate forum from general chit-chat.


Thank you for this. The forum is entitled "The Attic". A while back, the ADMIN decided to create this forum for these types of discussions. Apparently, this forum allows in depth discussions regarding issues that we all find to be somewhat controversial. Prior to The Attict, I do remember some people, including me, getting quite heated, throwing disrespectful slurs toward each other. It just really got out of hand. My input was just to throw some insight to the original person who posted something about Jimmy Swagart....no disrespect was ever intended.

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Dec 16, 2014 16:56:47   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
tommyf wrote:
Thank you for this. The forum is entitled "The Attic". A while back, the ADMIN decided to create this forum for these types of discussions. Apparently, this forum allows in depth discussions regarding issues that we all find to be somewhat controversial. Prior to The Attict, I do remember some people, including me, getting quite heated, throwing disrespectful slurs toward each other. It just really got out of hand. My input was just to throw some insight to the original person who posted something about Jimmy Swagart....no disrespect was ever intended.
Thank you for this. The forum is entitled "Th... (show quote)


I don't know what could be controversial about Swagart? Perhaps if there were someone who supported him but most seem in agreement here.

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Dec 16, 2014 17:39:25   #
kwils Loc: Salem, Ma
 
tommyf wrote:
Thank you for this. The forum is entitled "The Attic". A while back, the ADMIN decided to create this forum for these types of discussions. Apparently, this forum allows in depth discussions regarding issues that we all find to be somewhat controversial. Prior to The Attict, I do remember some people, including me, getting quite heated, throwing disrespectful slurs toward each other. It just really got out of hand. My input was just to throw some insight to the original person who posted something about Jimmy Swagart....no disrespect was ever intended.
Thank you for this. The forum is entitled "Th... (show quote)


You don't really think that there is a list somewhere of topics that are forbidden in general chat. I think the intent of the attic is to send out of control posters there and not the topic.

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Dec 16, 2014 19:56:44   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
kwils wrote:
You don't really think that there is a list somewhere of topics that are forbidden in general chat. I think the intent of the attic is to send out of control posters there and not the topic.


is that your final decison :?: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Dec 16, 2014 21:05:48   #
kwils Loc: Salem, Ma
 
dirtpusher wrote:
is that your final decison :?: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


No. I'm going to use a life line and phone a friend.

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