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Nov 29, 2014 06:38:25   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
what a nice story. I would love to see that. we take things for granted. in the old days, that is how things were done. thanks for the story. really enjoyed it. deb
llamb wrote:
Erv reminded me of an event that occurred thirty years ago. I accompanied two elderly Amish gentlemen on an ice harvest. Most shun electricity but some use gas refrigerators and the rest still use iceboxes - metal-lined Oak cabinets that need a block of ice every few days. Some buy the ice, but the community near me harvests pond ice and stores it underground in sawdust and straw-lined pits all year long.

On a cold January morning, we rode out to Milo's pond in an oak wagon pulled by a span of massive plowhorses. Two holes were chopped in the ice about three feet apart and a huge saw was inserted. Up and down, up and down the saw was worked until two parallel five foot long kerfs were opened. A cut was then made between the two holes, and then another crosscut was chopped about two inches deep about two feet away. The Amish gentlemen straddled the cutout and took each others' hands. One jumped on the cut and scored block as the other pulled him onto solid ice. The block was broken free and bobbed in the water. The freed block was hooked with ice tongs fastened to a chain and were horsedrawn a slid up a ramp onto the wagon. It was then covered with sawdust.

I asked how much we were going to do and was told a full wagonfull! Wow! The Amish have big wagons and I marveled at the two old men with one English helper thought they could do all that work in one day. I heard a motorized vehicle approach. A pair of four wheel drive quads with three Amish lads pulled up on the ice. The two older gentlemen talked about going to the house to warm-up and left. I stayed. A Stihl chainsaw scored the ice and the blocks were loaded with the quads and some muscle. After a couple of hours Milo and the other gentleman appeared and the boys left them with a wagon full of ice. We drove the wagon back to the pit and unhitched the team. It would be unloaded the next day. The older gents never commented about the boys or the machinery, they just turned their backs and accepted the help. Help? Those kids worked their tails off and never complained. They talked about girls most of the time. I think of the Amish often when I'm drinking a Gin and tonic on a hot summer day.
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Nov 29, 2014 06:40:26   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
hi philo, thanks for the comment. I have been through your little town. it was the first time I had ever experienced amish outside of their community.
philo wrote:
They can travel by train or by bus, but not by plane.

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Nov 29, 2014 19:40:54   #
HEALS3113 Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
 
Don't be so sure they were Amish. They could have been Mennonite. The difference is slight but the Mennonite will use technology like lawn mowers and old cars and even wear brand name sneakers. The Amish won't use modern day technology and keep their colors darker and of course, horse and buggy.

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Nov 30, 2014 05:30:25   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
yes, I did wonder if they were Mennonite. thanks for looking. deb
HEALS3113 wrote:
Don't be so sure they were Amish. They could have been Mennonite. The difference is slight but the Mennonite will use technology like lawn mowers and old cars and even wear brand name sneakers. The Amish won't use modern day technology and keep their colors darker and of course, horse and buggy.

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Nov 30, 2014 06:20:20   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
grandmadeb wrote:
I wanted to take the train back home to Illinois, but after I had been in California for a month, I was ready for my long trip to be done. I would love to take the Empire builder back. I think the views would be beautiful. thanks for looking. deb


The Empire Builder is perhaps the most beautiful Amtrak route I have ever traveled on. Enjoy!

As a side note, for all those who like/need/want to travel by Amtrak: In the next 2 years of total GOP control of Congress, they will likely make their attempt to finally kill Amtrak, which they've wanted to do for years (because it is a government run/subsidized company, and because the employees are unionized). Unlike private corporations, Amtrak cannot lobby Congress. It is up to us, the riders, to demand that Congress keep their hands off Amtrak.

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Nov 30, 2014 11:14:33   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Keenan wrote:
The Empire Builder is perhaps the most beautiful Amtrak route I have ever traveled on. Enjoy!

As a side note, for all those who like/need/want to travel by Amtrak: In the next 2 years of total GOP control of Congress, they will likely make their attempt to finally kill Amtrak, which they've wanted to do for years (because it is a government run/subsidized company, and because the employees are unionized). Unlike private corporations, Amtrak cannot lobby Congress. It is up to us, the riders, to demand that Congress keep their hands off Amtrak.
The Empire Builder is perhaps the most beautiful A... (show quote)


Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup:

Other countries are smart enough to have a great rail system that is more economical than everyone driving their own cars.
They are too fast to subsidize oil companies and not support things that are good for this country.

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Dec 1, 2014 07:03:53   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
TrainNut wrote:
Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup:

Other countries are smart enough to have a great rail system that is more economical than everyone driving their own cars.
They are too fast to subsidize oil companies and not support things that are good for this country.


Yep :thumbup:

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Dec 2, 2014 19:02:51   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Keenan wrote:
Yep :thumbup:


The lobbyists paid by the special interests see that they are protected- the public be damned.

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Dec 2, 2014 19:05:11   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
Don't be so sure they were Amish. They could have been Mennonite. The difference is slight but the Mennonite will use technology like lawn mowers and old cars and even wear brand name sneakers. The Amish won't use modern day technology and keep their colors darker and of course, horse and buggy.


I believe you are correct. Don't all Amish men wear Dark brimmed or straw hats? The Mennonites are slightly less formal in their public dress.

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Dec 3, 2014 02:52:28   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
romanticf16 wrote:
The lobbyists paid by the special interests see that they are protected- the public be damned.


Public servants. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :cry:

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Dec 3, 2014 03:10:39   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
We have the best democracy money can buy ;)

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Dec 3, 2014 06:19:27   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
don't know about the hats. I didn't see any of this group with a hat on.
romanticf16 wrote:
I believe you are correct. Don't all Amish men wear Dark brimmed or straw hats? The Mennonites are slightly less formal in their public dress.

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Dec 3, 2014 13:35:34   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Keenan wrote:
We have the best democracy money can buy ;)


But I do not have enough money. :cry:
Can I rent them like a hooker?

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Dec 8, 2014 07:02:20   #
davidinvirginia
 
I have Mennonite ancestors and both Amish and Mennonite cousins. I found that the term Mennonite includes everything from the very conservative to those who are like "normal" folks. There are Mennonite colleges that are basic liberal arts schools with a little more religious emphasis. The Amish tend to be more like their ancestors. The Mennonites were founded by a former Catholic priest, Menno Simons. The Amish, if I remember correctly, were an offshoot of that from a fellow named Jacob Amman. Brethren are also found in many varieties, but are for the most part "normal" folks. I live in an area where we have all three groups. Amish are horse and buggy people, the Mennonite range from the Old Order (also horse and buggy and no electricity - except in their barns sometimes) to "normal" and Brethren (normal people around here). All three groups stress family values. AND, I enjoyed the photo.

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Dec 8, 2014 11:11:58   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
thanks dave, I just loved taking pictures of other people, and these folks were unique.
davidinvirginia wrote:
I have Mennonite ancestors and both Amish and Mennonite cousins. I found that the term Mennonite includes everything from the very conservative to those who are like "normal" folks. There are Mennonite colleges that are basic liberal arts schools with a little more religious emphasis. The Amish tend to be more like their ancestors. The Mennonites were founded by a former Catholic priest, Menno Simons. The Amish, if I remember correctly, were an offshoot of that from a fellow named Jacob Amman. Brethren are also found in many varieties, but are for the most part "normal" folks. I live in an area where we have all three groups. Amish are horse and buggy people, the Mennonite range from the Old Order (also horse and buggy and no electricity - except in their barns sometimes) to "normal" and Brethren (normal people around here). All three groups stress family values. AND, I enjoyed the photo.
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