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Nov 21, 2014 07:39:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dbeals wrote:
I know it's the photographers experience that makes the picture. However, I've been told it's the lens that is more important than the body (camera body). How true this statement is I'm not sure? Therefore, I have a Rebel XS with a esf18-35mm lens and a esf 55-250 mm. In order to take better quality landscape and wildlife photography would the experts out there give me your advise. Does purchasing a higher quality lens for my Rebel XS or a higher quality camera/ lens be the best step to take? I'm not the pro.
I know it's the photographers experience that make... (show quote)

That's always the question, isn't it? Camera or lens. Here's a good video.

Cheap Lens vs Good Camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk5IMmEDWH4

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Nov 21, 2014 07:50:25   #
JRosen
 
If you can't see it, you surely can't shoot it! As one of our colleagues mentioned, the glass is to see, the camera is merely a recording device. Why not rent a good piece of glass with your current camera body, and see if that gives you the desired shots you are looking for. If not, then rent a body and see if that scratches your itch--or both.

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Nov 21, 2014 08:00:03   #
Les White
 
Money is always an issue with camera equipment --Canon is always upgrading equipment and it can get pricey--I do lots of landscape and wildlife (mainly around the Monterey Bay)--and I really like my Canon d6 and the Tamron 150-600 both reasonably priced when compared to other cameras and lenses

dbeals wrote:
I know it's the photographers experience that makes the picture. However, I've been told it's the lens that is more important than the body (camera body). How true this statement is I'm not sure? Therefore, I have a Rebel XS with a esf18-35mm lens and a esf 55-250 mm. In order to take better quality landscape and wildlife photography would the experts out there give me your advise. Does purchasing a higher quality lens for my Rebel XS or a higher quality camera/ lens be the best step to take? I'm not the pro.
I know it's the photographers experience that make... (show quote)

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Nov 21, 2014 08:03:08   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
JRosen wrote:
If you can't see it, you surely can't shoot it! As one of our colleagues mentioned, the glass is to see, the camera is merely a recording device. Why not rent a good piece of glass with your current camera body, and see if that gives you the desired shots you are looking for. If not, then rent a body and see if that scratches your itch--or both.


This might be a good suggestion. You would need to try shooting wildlife with it. But then you should also try shooting some of your wildlife pictures with a camera that has a more up to date focusing system.

The focusing system might involve a learning curve, so the rental might be a little long. By the end of the rental period for the lens and camera, you may have spent your upgrade money.

But honestly, your lenses are quite able to pull most of the potential from your current camera. If you were just shooting landscapes and not wildlife, I would probably lean toward a new lens, but the wildlife part pushes toward a new camera with a better focusing system.

The 70D gets my vote.

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Nov 21, 2014 08:04:14   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
SharpShooter wrote:


The best lens in the world Is probably 10% better than the worst lens being sold and you'd be lucky to see that difference on any camera. I would NEVER buy a lens because I thought it was sharper. That's just setting yourself up for disappointment.
The gains in expensive lenses are VERY small.
SS


Not addressed to me - but thanks for that (part of your post).
I am in the middle of producing a "Pictorial Tour Guide" - (50 pics) with routes and narrative. Pics will be printed 4"x3" - and although small I wish to do the best I can with them. I have a MFT 45-200 lens which I had thought of swapping for a 45-150 which I have read can produce sharper results - but at the size I am producing? When I am purposely over-sharpening with PP for effective punch on the small size prints? You have helped me decide to stay with what I have. Thanks again. :thumbup:

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Nov 21, 2014 08:58:46   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
My advice is simple. Bodies are expenses, lenses are investments. Always buy the best glass you can afford. Look for great deals on used. Not all used lenses are beat up, some become available when photogs switch from Canon to Nikon or from DSLR to CSC. For Nikon shooters, there are fantastic deals on AF-D glass. I just bought a near new 16mm fisheye for $499.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:17:37   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
dbeals wrote:
I know it's the photographers experience that makes the picture. However, I've been told it's the lens that is more important than the body (camera body). How true this statement is I'm not sure? Therefore, I have a Rebel XS with a esf18-35mm lens and a esf 55-250 mm. In order to take better quality landscape and wildlife photography would the experts out there give me your advise. Does purchasing a higher quality lens for my Rebel XS or a higher quality camera/ lens be the best step to take? I'm not the pro.
I know it's the photographers experience that make... (show quote)


In your particular case, you will firstly need to upgrade your body ! - Then the lens. Bodies are short term solutions - lenses long term.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:30:04   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
dbeals wrote:
I know it's the photographers experience that makes the picture. However, I've been told it's the lens that is more important than the body (camera body). How true this statement is I'm not sure? Therefore, I have a Rebel XS with a esf18-35mm lens and a esf 55-250 mm. In order to take better quality landscape and wildlife photography would the experts out there give me your advise. Does purchasing a higher quality lens for my Rebel XS or a higher quality camera/ lens be the best step to take? I'm not the pro.
I know it's the photographers experience that make... (show quote)


Your camera is really out of step with today's technology. The newer sensors will give you sharper images. Upgrade the camera. Good lenses/good glass will last a lifetime. But it they have to be matched up with a good camera and that is full frame. Good luck

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Nov 21, 2014 11:06:30   #
Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI
 
If you really like your Rebel upgrade to the t5i kit. The kit lens are very good quality and you will be able to get professional results with them. Then as you can afford to, purchase higher end ef lenses because they will work on a full frame if you ever decide to go that route. When I was able to purchase the 5D Mark lll I kept my Rebel t3i. I use it where I would be afraid the 5D could get damaged or stolen in crowds or on long hikes where the 5D would be too heavy after a while. I get excellent results with it and the lenses work on both cameras.

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Nov 21, 2014 17:29:43   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
dbeals wrote:
I know it's the photographers experience that makes the picture. However, I've been told it's the lens that is more important than the body (camera body). How true this statement is I'm not sure? Therefore, I have a Rebel XS with a esf18-35mm lens and a esf 55-250 mm. In order to take better quality landscape and wildlife photography would the experts out there give me your advise. Does purchasing a higher quality lens for my Rebel XS or a higher quality camera/ lens be the best step to take? I'm not the pro.
I know it's the photographers experience that make... (show quote)


The statement used to be true when all used the same film. It isn't true with digital cameras. The camera choice can matter far more than the lens choice.

You might want to play around on the DXOMark WEB page. Although it take a little figuring out how to do it you can get their test results on just about any combination of camera and compatible lens. I have found that their results vary far more by camera for the same lens than they do between lenses for the same camera...even over a wide range of lens choices.

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Nov 21, 2014 17:48:19   #
ikaush Loc: Medford, MA
 
Curve_in wrote:
You should post some of your favorite shots (remember to check the "store original" box). There are lots of talented people on here that would then be able to point you in a good direction. If you head over to https://pixelpeeper.com/ you can put in your current camera and lens combo to get an idea of what it can do.


Thanks for this link!

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Nov 21, 2014 21:38:52   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
I agree with MtnMan that the body is more important now than in the film days. For example, when a new and better film came out you bought the film not a new camera. Now as sensors improve you must get a new camera if you want the better sensor.

I don't believe that most photographers need to upgrade with every new camera, but I do believe that it's a good idea to upgrade when there is a significant improvement in camera technology.

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Nov 22, 2014 03:55:53   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Camera firmware has also become more sophisticated - to match the new higher pixel sensors, at the same time incorporating more facilities e.g. HDR mode, and better methodology for overcoming lens aberrations (because some "sharper" lenses will produce more distortion etc). That could be one reason to stay with one manufacturer for camera and lens.

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Nov 22, 2014 22:33:26   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
Might be time for a camera upgrade as well as some new glass. That's easy to say but our budgets are always a consideration.

Jack

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Nov 22, 2014 22:38:42   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
For Wildlife, you might want to look at the Canon 7D MKII that just came out. I just bought this camera and it is wonderful!

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