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Nov 16, 2014 23:03:46   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Bram boy wrote:
well look from where your from , you don't even need stoves . to cook on is about all . and $360 a month for pellets at $6 a bag I think it's more now . and the best fir you can buy cut up to any length you want , delivered at $200
a cord . it's a no brainer . I have my air tight napoleon fire place going all winter on about a half cord a month . and it heats the upstars . no basement


dont need stoves????…guess you have never been to Oklahoma..26 degrees & snowing today….thats not Alaska but sure as hell aint shirtsleeve weather…Oak pellets here are still less than 5 bucks/bag… whatever floats your boat dude...

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Nov 16, 2014 23:46:56   #
A10 Loc: Southern Indiana
 
Maybe they should make a pellet stove in the shape of a camera. How about a TLR stove? LOL

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Nov 16, 2014 23:51:15   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
singleviking wrote:
Using one pellet stove to heat a whole house is like having one fireplace at one end of a ranch home and expecting it to heat the whole house. Pellet stoves, just like wood stoves and fireplaces are meant to keep a particular zone heated comfortably. I used one for a reasonably large unheated, enclosed porch area after enclosing it with Pella window walls and insulated doors. It kept the kitchen, porch sitting area and the open up stairs library area comfortable with the use of ceiling fans to circulate air throughout the areas. I still had a gas fired central heating system and a central air but never got around to connecting the return air ducts to the furnace.

Sure sounds to me like you and your friend were attempting to use this pellet stove for more than it was originally designed for. There's also different
brands of stoves and some are more efficient than others. Some are made of
sheet metal and others made from cast iron. Some have variable circulating
fans and other have just 1 or 2 speeds. Some are better than others.


It's the same with cameras. It's all in the features you desire and the build quality, materials used, and your particular application and budget. For the most part, you do get what you pay for if you know the products presented to accomplish the goal.
Using one pellet stove to heat a whole house is li... (show quote)


your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 and rated for 1600sq feet
the last house we had was 2800 sq feet 1400 sq basement and 1400 sq feet
up . we heated the whole house with one $400 mamma bear wood stove
sitting in front of the fire place in basement . it was piped into the fireplace
chimney. and a air tight metal peice blocked the fire place opening .
it burned for 8 hours , and there was plenty of red hot coals of wood in the mourning to get it fired up . you just piled the wood in . it heated up the whole basement . and heat went up the stairs and above the stove was the living room so we cut a section out of the living room floor and put a steel grate in the floor , which was in front of the fire place up stairs . it heated the whole 2800 sq feet with no problem . we had to open a upstars window at times when temp out side got to 32deg and above it was ok as long as it was
below freezing

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Nov 16, 2014 23:53:06   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
A10 wrote:
Maybe they should make a pellet stove in the shape of a camera. How about a TLR stove? LOL


If you look closely at the photos, it does remind some of a Brownie Box Camera but with a funny shaped lens (or is that a flickering flash?) and stand. LOL.

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Nov 17, 2014 00:07:33   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
[quote=Bram boy]your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 and rated for 1600sq feet
the last house we had was 2800 sq feet 1400 sq basement and 1400 sq feet
up . we heated the whole house with one $400 mamma bear wood stove
sitting in front of the fire place in basement . it was piped into the fireplace
chimney. and a air tight metal peice blocked the fire place opening .
it burned for 8 hours , and there was plenty of red hot coals of wood in the mourning to get it fired up . you just piled the wood in . it heated up the whole basement . and heat went up the stairs and above the stove was the living room so we cut a section out of the living room floor and put a steel grate in the floor , which was in front of the fire place up stairs . it heated the whole 2800 sq feet with no problem . we had to open a upstars window at times when temp out side got to 32deg and above it was ok as long as it was
below freezing[/quote.

Bram boy,
Then you said,

"pellet stoves suck . I got rid of mine . and I'm back to wood . my neighbour had one now he threw that out and put in a oil fired furnace , just imagine that , and he says it's cheaper than that pellet stove . his place is warm again . and it's a 1400 sq ft rancher no basement . it was clammy feeling with the pellet stove , there a pain I would never get one again"


Make up your mind dude. First you say that pellet stoves suck and now you say it kept the whole house toasty. First it was a 1400 sq ft. ranch place and now it's 2800 sq. ft. place.

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Nov 17, 2014 02:57:40   #
The Watcher
 
Some years ago, a friend that lives in a large mobile home ask me to come over and check out his newly installed pellet stove. I noticed that the furnace thermostat was located near the new stove and suggested that he move it to a cooler area. Heat ducts on mobile home furnaces do more than distribute the heated air, they also warm the open area between the floor and the insulation. Water lines are usually located near these ducts.

During the second winter, the weather got very cold. I noticed he wasn't going to work. Several days later a handyman showed up.

It started out with the heat tape failing on the water line from the well to the house. Once that was fixed other frozen lines become a problem. Since the thermostat wasn't moved, the pellet stove had to be shut down and the furnace run hard. The handyman was called in to, relocate the thermostat and to find and repair a ruptured line. A lot of fun in the winter.

Something to consider when installing a pellet or wood stove.

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Nov 17, 2014 08:20:43   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
The Watcher wrote:
Some years ago, a friend that lives in a large mobile home ask me to come over and check out his newly installed pellet stove. I noticed that the furnace thermostat was located near the new stove and suggested that he move it to a cooler area. Heat ducts on mobile home furnaces do more than distribute the heated air, they also warm the open area between the floor and the insulation. Water lines are usually located near these ducts.

During the second winter, the weather got very cold. I noticed he wasn't going to work. Several days later a handyman showed up.

It started out with the heat tape failing on the water line from the well to the house. Once that was fixed other frozen lines become a problem. Since the thermostat wasn't moved, the pellet stove had to be shut down and the furnace run hard. The handyman was called in to, relocate the thermostat and to find and repair a ruptured line. A lot of fun in the winter.

Something to consider when installing a pellet or wood stove.
Some years ago, a friend that lives in a large mob... (show quote)


The pellet stove vendor should have warned about installations where central heating systems keep exposed piping from freezing, but the home owner should have been aware of this problem as well.
As I said earlier, pellet stoves are not intended to replace central heating systems unless extensive modifications are implemented to both the stove's and the home's air circulation system. Pellet stoves are meant for specific zone heating only.

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Nov 17, 2014 12:02:56   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Bram boy wrote:
your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 and rated for 1600sq feet
the last house we had was 2800 sq feet 1400 sq basement and 1400 sq feet
up . we heated the whole house with one $400 mamma bear wood stove
sitting in front of the fire place in basement . it was piped into the fireplace
chimney. and a air tight metal peice blocked the fire place opening .
it burned for 8 hours , and there was plenty of red hot coals of wood in the mourning to get it fired up . you just piled the wood in . it heated up the whole basement . and heat went up the stairs and above the stove was the living room so we cut a section out of the living room floor and put a steel grate in the floor , which was in front of the fire place up stairs . it heated the whole 2800 sq feet with no problem . we had to open a upstars window at times when temp out side got to 32deg and above it was ok as long as it was
below freezing
your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 ... (show quote)


i reckon they should be rated in cubic feet not square feet.
Ceilings being different heights.

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Nov 17, 2014 13:17:29   #
ooofda Loc: Canyon Country, CA
 
The pellet stove is a smoker.
Manufactured in OK.
Because of all of the noted efficiencies they are superior to
most of their competitors.

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Nov 17, 2014 13:28:17   #
jcave Loc: Cecilia, Kentucky
 
theglove, I also lived in Omaha, AR and was the first to build on what is now called Homestead Lane on the way to Denver. A pellet stove would have been nice in that area. I now live in Middletown Springs, VT and like you recently bought a pellet stove. Mine is an Englander from Home Depot and seems to be doing the job. Pellets here are $239/ton on average in this area. I would suggest having extra shear pins and an auger motor on hand since both can break or stop. For the price the Englander (also called Summer Heat) is the most popular in the U.S. and outsells all others combined. Admittedly, there are better stoves, but for my money they do a good job.

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Nov 17, 2014 14:42:08   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
[quote=singleviking][quote=Bram boy]your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 and rated for 1600sq feet
the last house we had was 2800 sq feet 1400 sq basement and 1400 sq feet
up . we heated the whole house with one $400 mamma bear wood stove
sitting in front of the fire place in basement . it was piped into the fireplace
chimney. and a air tight metal peice blocked the fire place opening .
it burned for 8 hours , and there was plenty of red hot coals of wood in the mourning to get it fired up . you just piled the wood in . it heated up the whole basement . and heat went up the stairs and above the stove was the living room so we cut a section out of the living room floor and put a steel grate in the floor , which was in front of the fire place up stairs . it heated the whole 2800 sq feet with no problem . we had to open a upstars window at
times when temp out side got to 32deg and above it was ok as long as it was
below freezing[/quote.

Bram boy,
Then you said,

"pellet stoves suck . I got rid of mine . and I'm back to wood . my neighbour
had one now he threw that out and put in a oil fired furnace , just imagine
that , and he says it's cheaper than that pellet stove . his place is warm again
. and it's a 1400 sq ft rancher no basement . it was clammy feeling with the
pellet stove , there a pain I would never get one again"


Make up your mind dude. First you say that pellet stoves suck and now you say it kept the whole house toasty. First it was a 1400 sq ft. ranch place and now it's 2800 sq. ft. place.[/quote]

do you have a problem with reading . the momma bear is a air tight wood stove made by fisher . and we had it in a different house than this one . we and it heated 2800 sq feet on two floors . the house were in now had the
pellet stove junk . and it could not keep the place warm heated to our liking
and it's only 1750 sq feet. and you had to burn it full tilt to get it half warm . to hell with that noise . I put in a $5000 napoleon fire place . now if you burn it with a little to much draft , you will be opening a window at 25 below freezing .

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Nov 17, 2014 14:52:57   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
i reckon they should be rated in cubic feet not square feet.
Ceilings being different heights.


hi Allan . my mistake that mommy bear stove cost me $265 in 1975 . it was
the poppa bear that was $400 that's the one I was going to buy . good thing I dident.

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Nov 17, 2014 15:04:51   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
singleviking wrote:
The pellet stove vendor should have warned about installations where central heating systems keep exposed piping from freezing, but the home owner should have been aware of this problem as well.
As I said earlier, pellet stoves are not intended to replace central heating systems unless extensive modifications are implemented to both the stove's and the home's air circulation system. Pellet stoves are meant for specific zone heating only.



zone heating only your wrong .may be the smallest ones they have . they got
ones that will heat 2000 sq foot of floor space and more .

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Nov 17, 2014 16:31:16   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bram boy wrote:
zone heating only your wrong .may be the smallest ones they have . they got
ones that will heat 2000 sq foot of floor space and more .


No matter how much heat it puts out to heat a large irregular space, like most homes are, you need proper air flow. If you have a long hallway or such you will need to pipe air from the extremity to the heat source.

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Nov 17, 2014 19:54:37   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
[quote=singleviking][quote=Bram boy]your joking of course . the stove I had was $2800 and rated for 1600sq feet
the last house we had was 2800 sq feet 1400 sq basement and 1400 sq feet
up . we heated the whole house with one $400 mamma bear wood stove
sitting in front of the fire place in basement . it was piped into the fireplace
chimney. and a air tight metal peice blocked the fire place opening .
it burned for 8 hours , and there was plenty of red hot coals of wood in the mourning to get it fired up . you just piled the wood in . it heated up the whole basement . and heat went up the stairs and above the stove was the living room so we cut a section out of the living room floor and put a steel grate in the floor , which was in front of the fire place up stairs . it heated the whole 2800 sq feet with no problem . we had to open a upstars window at
times when temp out side got to 32deg and above it was ok as long as it wa

below freezing[/quote.

Bram boy,
Then you said,

"pellet stoves suck . I got rid of mine . and I'm back to wood . my neighbour had one now he threw that out and put in a oil fired furnace , just imagine that , and he says it's cheaper than that pellet stove . his place is warm again . and it's a 1400 sq ft rancher no basement . it was clammy feeling with thepellet stove , there a pain I would never get one again"


Make up your mind dude. First you say that pellet stoves suck and now you say it kept the whole house toasty. First it was a 1400 sq ft. ranch place and now it's 2800 sq. ft. place.[/quote]

I dident say none of that I'll make it simple for you . my neighbour had a 1400 sq foot rancher . and he chucked his pellet stove out . I had a mommy bear wood burning air tight stove in my basement which was 1400 sq feet
also upstairs was 1400 sq feet . I had a total of 2800 sqft and the fisher momma bear had no problems heating both floors .and it wasent a bloody pellet stove . it was a wood burning stove . then we moved to van island
bought a house , put a pellet stove in . hated it then put the napoleon fireplace insert in and haven't looked back

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