Rayford2, what you've just written is nonsense.

This is just the start of the I TOLD YOU SOs.

Yes, and this is just the start of the "Get Used to It"s. What you are writing is rant and cant.

Hal, are you blaming Obama for the closure of the Wonderbread/Twinkies company ? Plants have been closing left and right for years now when their business practices have been unprofitable. To blame the President for this is foolish. But you might as well get used to Obama for the next four years because that is what you're going to get. If he had not been elected the first time we would be a lot worse off now than we are,. You cannot shovel all the s*** out of W's stable overnight when it accumulated for eight years.

You belive what you want. But I say I TOLD YOU SO. He Said he would fix it if he got in. He lied.He only made it much worse. If things keep getting worse you will still hear I TOLD YOU SO from me. Most of that with a democreat congress and he still didn't fix anything only made things worse. And just watch your taxs go up. And that wont be a drop in the buckit. He has to stop his uncontrolable spending. And dont keep blameing Bush to me I didnt like him eather. We the people have to take this country back. And get it out of the hands of the lobbyest and stop them from their bribe paying ways. Congress should have by the same laws as the people they represent. They shouldnt be able to vote themselves a rase. We should have to do that. If they lie to us they should lose their job. The presant should only get one two week vacation a year like any other new emploee. Why should anybody be able to use the us one jet to campane. It should be payed for by the party that running for office not the tax payer. I could go on and on why I dont like the way both partys run our goverment. Their so crooket they could hide in the shadow of a cork scerw. I still dont know if Mitt could have done any better but I think anybody but the lier in there now. You and I both know he wouldnt be in there if it wasn't for the people with their hand out for what they can get for nothing. And I dont mean the truly needy. Cheers.

You belive what you want. But I say I TOLD YOU SO. He Said he would fix it if he got in. He lied.He only made it much worse. If things keep getting worse you will still hear I TOLD YOU SO from me. Most of that with a democreat congress and he still didn't fix anything only made things worse. And just watch your taxs go up. And that wont be a drop in the buckit. He has to stop his uncontrolable spending. And dont keep blameing Bush to me I didnt like him eather. We the people have to take this country back. And get it out of the hands of the lobbyest and stop them from their bribe paying ways. Congress should have by the same laws as the people they represent. They shouldnt be able to vote themselves a rase. We should have to do that. If they lie to us they should lose their job. The presant should only get one two week vacation a year like any other new emploee. Why should anybody be able to use the us one jet to campane. It should be payed for by the party that running for office not the tax payer. I could go on and on why I dont like the way both partys run our goverment. Their so crooket they could hide in the shadow of a cork scerw. I still dont know if Mitt could have done any better but I think anybody but the lier in there now. You and I both know he wouldnt be in there if it wasn't for the people with their hand out for what they can get for nothing. And I dont mean the truly needy. Cheers.

I am not saying you are right or wrong about the president’s powers being limited but, I what I wonder then is, if his powers are so limited, why is it that so many of Obama’s supporters act and talk like he nothing less than the Second Coming of Jesus Christ?

[I think that the contrast of an intelligent man -- Obama -- after a really dumb one -- Bush -- is why people were so enthusiastic about Obama. I have not heard him compared to Jesus Christ.]

I really feel that is a significant part of why so many people on the other side of the fence detest him so. His is in no way, shape, or form a business man knowledgeable in the ways of business.

[There is a faulty premise in your statement -- that you need a man who is a good businessman to run this country. You need a man who has advisers and entire departments to tell you what the results of different actions will be so that you can then choose which actions to take based on your values.]

Yes, I know, he has advisors to provide the necessary input to make important decisions about the direction in which to take this country but, without any real world experience in such matters himself, how can he possibly know if the advice he is receiving is good and unbiased? I don’t think he can.

[No president can know these things with total certainty. There are many things that every president doesn't know about from experience. That is why he has a cabinet, cabinet meetings and many advisers. Very, very few presidents were businessmen.]

I think he got swept up in believing his own campaign rhetoric the first time around and was absolutely flabbergasted when he met with resistance to things he wanted to do.

[I don't think he was "flabbergasted" at all. He and much of the country was "disappointed."]

As I said before in our earlier discussion, I just don’t like or trust the man. I remember after the oil spill in the Gulf he was finally convinced he should make a trip down to the Gulf States, make an appearance, and help spread the word that the spill had been cleaned up and the Gulf coast was, once again, a great place to visit and vacation.

[If you look at W's amount of vacation time, it dwarfs the amount of vacation time any recent president has taken. Obama was not out of line in the amount of days he took. It is a very high-pressure, demanding job -- maybe the most difficult in the world. Also, it took W a lot longer to go down to the Gulf and have a look than it did Obama. And the reaction of FEMA under Bush was pathetic. Obama's FEMA is working very hard and was there from the git-go.]

Then he loaded everyone back on Air Force 1, and went on vacation, somewhere else. It was almost as though he couldn’t get out of there fast enough. He just seems so smug in his attitude, his demeanor, his actions, and his speech that I have a hard time buying into anything he says.


Maybe Romney wasn’t the best person to take over the reins but I was willing to give him a shot. Obama had his and I don’t see that very much came from it. That is why I look forward to the end of Obama’s second term and what choices there may be, Republican or Democrat, to help reverse the trend and get this country on a path to restore it to the greatness it once had.

[Here your comments get really problematical because of your lack of details. I would like to know which trend or trends you want reversed SPECIFICALLY. And I would like to know more about the "greatness" this country has had in the past that it is now losing. I think you are imagining something. There never was any 'golden age" in this country's history. This country is still great.]

No, I don’t want to move and wait it out. I will do that right here, thank you. But, I know this country can be better than it currently is in many aspects, and I look forward to seeing that happen.

[I agree that this country has a lot of room for improvement. And I look forward to seeing it happen -- under Obama.]