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Nov 3, 2014 19:38:29   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I have three good camera's that I use:

1) Sony A900 (Full frame)
2) Sony A77 II (APSC)
3) Sony RX100M2 (smaller sensor yet)

Each of these camera's have their own advantages and charm. PhotoShop CS5.1 is only able to open the RAW files from my old A900. When I try to open a RAW file from the other two cameras I get the following message:

Could not complete your request because the file appears to be from a camera model which is not supported by the installed version of Camera Raw.
Please visit the Camera Raw help documentation for additional information.


Must I now pay to update to a new (cloud monthly payments version of PS) or is there another way to get Adobe's more modern RAW converter(s)?

I have work around solutions i.e. Aperture or DxO. I'm curious why Adobe PS is the only program giving me a problem with 2 of my 3 cameras?

Is there a way I can upgrade the RAW converter(s) to my current version of PS?

-----Edit-----
I contacted Adobe and asked this same question. Attached is part of the correspondence:
I have three good camera's that I use: br br 1) S... (show quote)


Dave, There should be an update to your ACR file at the Adobe web site. You'll have to hunt around for it. It's far better than going through the machinations of converting your RAW to a DNG prior to being able to work on it in PS.

For some reason, they are still updating the ACR files, but they are still hard at it selling people on their cloud creation.
--Bob

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Nov 3, 2014 20:41:58   #
rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Once you understand the value inherent in the Adobe Photoshop/LR subscription, you'll see the benefit. This has been covered ad nauseum everywhere on the internet, but software maintenance is a standard in the industry. If you choose to rely on outdated software for your current needs, then you will always be in this situation where new hardware is not supported on old software. Aside from your specific situation, PS has added tons of new "stuff" to make it really worthwhile upgrading to. I was averse to subscribing at first, when it was $30 for a single application. But at $10/mo it really is a no-brainer. CS6 Extended costs $650, and LR is $75. Just quickly doing the math, it would take over 6 years before the cost of subscribing exceeds the purchase price of this software. And this does not include subsequent version upgrades to the perpetual licensed software, which are absolutely free. In fact, the subscription model has already been version updated twice since it's release, and the latest, CC2014, is a major rewrite to make it faster and include more capability.

It is not a get rich quick on your back - it is a very strategically good move that allows them to kick up the product cycle, deliver better product more often, and help them be more responsive to user needs. Downloading software as opposed to selling it on DVD's in little boxes in retail packaging to add to inventory on store shelves is a win for the buyer and for the company. And they pass the savings on to the consumer. Yes, subscription model is actually a win-win when it is done right. If you are not familiar, you can test drive it at no charge for a month - then you can see what you are missing out on, especially if you are using such an old version.

BTW, I use DXO as well, been a user since V5 and a strong advocate.

However, like ACR, LR and other Raw converters, DXO is a parametric editor - it can apply amazingly powerful adjustments to an image or group of images quickly and efficiently, much better than pixel editors like Photoshop. It is not a substitute for Photoshop, nor will it ever be. In general, parametric editors are not great at finishing images. If anyone tells you otherwise, they don't understand what goes into high quality photo finishing.

I love DXO 10 btw. Just upgraded to it last week and I am enjoying the speed. I use it in my LR-Photoshop workflow to do a few things that it does better/faster than LR.

To put things into a different perspective - the subscription model costs about the same as a six pack of a premium craft brewed beer, or 4 Latte Grandes at your favorite green-logo'd intenet coffee shop. :)

From my understanding, this is a photography forum, and a discussion that includes your political views whatever they may be is inappropriate.
Once you understand the value inherent in the Adob... (show quote)


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Nov 3, 2014 20:57:25   #
Peasant1 Loc: Chicago
 
I use Elements 9 and Lightroom 4, both with some Alien Skin and Topaz plug-ins, and one of the reasons I don't wish to upgrade is that I have them working how I wish with the plug-ins and don't want to risk screwing them up. This all worked fine until I recently acquired a GX7. For that camera I had to download and install the Adobe DNG converter. The extra step takes time but is easy to do, and after the conversion the files are twenty percent smaller or so.

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Nov 3, 2014 22:09:32   #
Ovhnfinity
 
marty wild wrote:
This is a complete RIP OFF! Because in a year or so the new updates will say. This update is not compatible with your current version of windows please see your administrator. ADOBE you make me P**S. They have all ready killed off the auto updates for PS CS5. It is a ball ache to get it working again from a fresh install


PS CC is the upgrade Marty. I think it's a great deal. I've had it since it became available and the updates don't cost any extra. Never have to pay for another 'update'!

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Nov 4, 2014 08:53:53   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Lucian wrote:
Adobe is a rental or lease product because you can not do anything with it if you stop paying unlike a magazine you own.


Even when I purchased PS and LR for over $900.00, the annual upgrades cost nearly $300.00. Software that has not been upgraded is worthless. So, instead of the $300.00/year, I now pay $120.00 per year. A savings of nearly $180.00. The best part is that my software stays up to date.

I'm sorry, but regardless of how it is approached, Adobe's subscription model is a win-win for everyone.

I won't fault you for not subscribing. That is completely your choice, and I respect that. But, I'm confident (along with millions of other users) in the decision I made to subscribe.

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Nov 4, 2014 09:15:15   #
Peasant1 Loc: Chicago
 
brucewells wrote:
Software that has not been upgraded is worthless.


Am I missing something here? Are you unable to use your software unless you constantly upgrade? I don't have that problem with Elements or Lightroom.

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Nov 4, 2014 09:19:41   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
brucewells wrote:
Even when I purchased PS and LR for over $900.00, the annual upgrades cost nearly $300.00. Software that has not been upgraded is worthless.
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I may well go for PS-cc in the near future. I would not call my old version CS 5.1 "worthless". It does everything I need it to do. I have yet to master all the features built into it. The only limitation I have experienced is CS 5.1's inability to convert raw files from some newer cameras. Other programs like DxO do that better that Adobe does. In fact I was totally unaware of this inability in PS CS5 until a visiting friend with a different work flow used my computer and pointed it out to me.

Only when I discover that newer versions of PS have a feature that I need or want, will I subscribe to CC version.

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Nov 4, 2014 09:26:21   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Peasant1 wrote:
Am I missing something here? Are you unable to use your software unless you constantly upgrade? I don't have that problem with Elements or Lightroom.


I can see how you might think that from reading some of the above posts, but no, older versions of PS like CS 5.X and CS 6.X and older, work just fine. It's just that some raw files from newer cameras will need to be converted using other software. Once converted older versions of PS continue to work wonderfully well. :-)

You are not missing anything.

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Nov 4, 2014 09:46:43   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Brucewells wrote:

"Software that has not been upgraded is worthless. "

I can't imagine why you feel that non upgraded software is useless. I believe the majority of users would not agree with you. However, I suppose Adobe loves people with that reasoning! To each his own.

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Nov 4, 2014 11:01:08   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Peasant1 wrote:
Am I missing something here? Are you unable to use your software unless you constantly upgrade? I don't have that problem with Elements or Lightroom.


No, but I didn't use the word "constantly". I can give you dozens of examples from right here on UHH where someone couldn't do such and such due to out-of-date software. My point is simply that one cannot use any software title forever. Something will eventually break.

I simply don't want to deal with that. For $10/month, I don't have to.

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Nov 4, 2014 11:07:13   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Davethehiker wrote:
The only limitation I have experienced is CS 5.1's inability to convert raw files from some newer cameras. Other programs


This is one of the frustrations to which I refer.

My simple point in this conversation is that I can alleviate these issues for only $10/month. It's difficult to eat at McDonald's for that. Just saying.

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Nov 4, 2014 11:50:21   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
We have beat this topic to death! We are all free to buy/rent what ever programs we want. For the sake of completeness I'm providing a link to a program I use to do my RAW conversions and export the results directly into my older version of PhotoShop:
https://shop.dxo.com/login.php?CountryShow=International

This program does not compete with PS, it augments it.

It ain't cheep and like older versions of PS (non-cc), periodically they come out with new versions and force you to upgrade if you want support for newer cameras. Their is no free lunch.

I own all three of the programs advertised on the above link. I do not find DxO FilmPack or DxO ViewPoint particularly useful. DxO OpticsPro however is very good.

Please don't respond to explain the $10/mo is cheaper. I know that. DxO is better at what it does.

BTW, Yes I am aware of the free community based geometric tools available from Adobe.

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Nov 4, 2014 11:51:29   #
Ovhnfinity
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I may well go for PS-cc in the near future. I would not call my old version CS 5.1 "worthless". It does everything I need it to do. I have yet to master all the features built into it. The only limitation I have experienced is CS 5.1's inability to convert raw files from some newer cameras. Other programs like DxO do that better that Adobe does. In fact I was totally unaware of this inability in PS CS5 until a visiting friend with a different work flow used my computer and pointed it out to me.

Only when I discover that newer versions of PS have a feature that I need or want, will I subscribe to CC version.
I may well go for PS-cc in the near future. I woul... (show quote)


PS CC has tools that older versions don't have, like the Healing Brush, Spot Removal and Patch tools, all of which work better than the Clone tool. Content Aware fill works better in CC as well. I doubt any of us have tapped the full spectrum of PS's capabilities. That said, I kept PS CS6 on my desktop computer just for the OP filter, which was discontinued in CC. It's the only thing I use 6 for.

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Nov 4, 2014 12:00:43   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Ovhnfinity wrote:
PS CC has tools that older versions don't have, like the Healing Brush, Spot Removal and Patch tools, all of which work better than the Clone tool.


Check, I bet you also have them.

I have all those tools in my old version of PS CS 5.1?

Maybe your's works better? I also have other programs that also provide similar tools that do work better.

----edit-----
I have the Apple version. Maybe it's different in the Windows version? :?:

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Nov 4, 2014 13:55:31   #
hobbycam Loc: Now in "Hollister, Ca."
 
Try Adobe download and dl the trial version of PSE 13
it is free for trial, if that solves your froblem. you will know
I am a sony user and have fpund no problem getting my raw files

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