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Mar 3, 2012 14:21:13   #
canoncan Loc: Fife Scotland
 
can anyone help me, i bought a new infared hoya 72 filter, i understand the basics of it but can seem to get any pictures at all, cant even show yous an example as i cant get a shot thats not pure black.

i set white balance by taken a picture of the green grass
manual mode
started with a 4 second exposure
f.stop f.5.6
iso 1600

i even covered up my eye piece so no light could enter at all, still nothing, lol,

where am i going wrong, any info would be great,

i really love ir pictures, only if i could get an image. :(

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Mar 3, 2012 15:09:36   #
gabysdad Loc: Livonia Mi USA
 
Looks like you camera cannot be used for infrared. Check out infrared on the internet. There is a simple way of telling if your camera can be used by using a TV remote.
I am now using a Nikon D60 that I had converted to IR, but before with that filter my exposure in sunlight was 3-4 seconds at f/ll with an ISO of 100.

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Mar 3, 2012 18:12:20   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
It could be the camera, the newer cameras done handle IR well as they have more filteration than the older ones.

ALso, I use exposures of over 10 secs with a 72

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Mar 3, 2012 19:48:26   #
gabysdad Loc: Livonia Mi USA
 
Type in infrared photography on the internet, they have a ton of stuff.

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Mar 4, 2012 06:58:10   #
ephraim Imperio
 
canoncan wrote:
can anyone help me, i bought a new infared hoya 72 filter, i understand the basics of it but can seem to get any pictures at all, cant even show yous an example as i cant get a shot thats not pure black.

i set white balance by taken a picture of the green grass
manual mode
started with a 4 second exposure
f.stop f.5.6
iso 1600

i even covered up my eye piece so no light could enter at all, still nothing, lol,

where am i going wrong, any info would be great,

i really love ir pictures, only if i could get an image. :(
can anyone help me, i bought a new infared hoya 72... (show quote)


We have an IR section here at UHH. That would be the place to direct your questions about IR.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-3448-1.html

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Mar 4, 2012 07:39:08   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
You want IR? Buy a Canon G-2 thru G-5 and a set of small screw drivers from Radio Shack.
http://www.lifepixel.com/tutorials/infrared-diy-tutorials/canon-powershot-g3-g5
DIY see the G2 conversion
http://www.kleptography.com/notes-irconvert.htm

About two years ago I converted a G-2 and it still works well. The most difficult part is finding glass the right combination thickness. (edges not critical can be rough, drummel diamond wheel is useful) Glass slide covers and picture frame glass solved that problem. Locktight sells a special glue for glass. I used rubber faced clamps to squeeze for 24 hrs plus. Be sure to make a screw map on cardboard and place the screws in the map holes so you can keep the screws in correct position for reassembly.

Or, barrow a camera that will take IR photos as determined by using the TV clicker test. TV clickers communicate with the set via IR.

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Mar 4, 2012 15:46:25   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
dpullum.You always have great reliable advice,this is certainly a new one to me..sure like the name kleptography,ha. I've been meaning to thank you for the suggestion month or more ago re. an easy remedy for
placing an old filter holder on a non-threaded lens barrel
for my convenient lightweight bridge camera. I'd have been
willing to transfer the use of just about anything available when you suggested the spice jar you had used and
illustrated it for me.They do come in slightly different
diameters and one turned out to be best for me.Hot water
softened the plastic enough to cut fairly easily,and i take
this belated moment to again thank you for your help.

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Mar 4, 2012 16:26:45   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
JENNY, Thank you so much for the recognition; it gets lonely out here on a limb. I jokingly said today that I specialized in crowd control. The police send me in and I start talking about science and gadgets and the crowd disperses!! without force or tear gas, just hot air.

I am glad that you were able to find a spice bottle to do your job for the bridge camera.

The glass to glass glue by locktite. Low cost spring soft plastic faced clamps from homedepot put a good sneeze on the small glass replacement for the hot mirror. clamping one edge then the opposite squeezes the excess glue (and bubbles out. only a very thin layer is needed.
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/sg_glass/overview/Loctite-Glass-Glue.htm

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Mar 4, 2012 22:00:38   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
IR:Once converted the Canon G-2 just takes photos like normal and no long exposures needed. IR filters on E-Bay are low cost and work well. The photo you see was taken near a Target parking lot,, what is left of the Pasco County wetlands after Baby Bush said who needs wetlands!! The typical redish color was removed using Topaz B&W plugin. I hope this inspires wannabe IR people.

Swamp IR Converted Canon G-2
Swamp IR Converted Canon G-2...

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Mar 5, 2012 08:38:44   #
canoncan Loc: Fife Scotland
 
thanks very much for help here guys,dpullum thats the kind of pics id love to take, your a brave man modifying your camera, well done as the results show.



once again thankyou for all the help.

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Mar 5, 2012 09:02:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dpullum wrote:
I jokingly said today that I specialized in crowd control. The police send me in and I start talking about science and gadgets and the crowd disperses!!

Beautiful!

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Mar 5, 2012 16:46:17   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
canoncan wrote:
thanks very much for help here guys,dpullum thats the kind of pics id love to take, your a brave man modifying your camera, well done as the results show.


If you get a G-2, just follow the directions. I did and the 3 time was a charm!! First time bubbles in the glass sandwich. Second time camera did not respond correctly. Took apart again and carefully put the cables back together and !!WALA!! Worked and has continued to work.

The glass glue was the key to no bubbles. Take care by photographing each step. Replace cables carefully. The directions in the article are excellent and so I claim no credit for achieving what another did so informatively. My change was the glue and the use of slide glass covers (get them from local pathology lab). I would think any camera should work. Kodak puts out some very low cost ones.... try the buddy system and work and photograph steps together.

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Mar 19, 2012 15:29:34   #
canoncan Loc: Fife Scotland
 
right heres a picture straight out the camera!








i think my camera is going to get fixed so it will take ir pictures, dont think im brave enough to try it myself,.



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Mar 19, 2012 16:08:33   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
canoncan wrote:
right heres a picture straight out the camera!








i think my camera is going to get fixed so it will take ir pictures, dont think im brave enough to try it myself,.


This is what it normal looks like right out of the camera, you need to convert it with software either to black and white or false color.

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Mar 19, 2012 19:37:15   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
CanonCan: a ++ composition, a little later the witch with the big wart on the nose would have cone along the path!! You will find Topaz B&W plus to be a versatile addition for handling IR. The virtue of conversion is faster shutter speed. Here is one hand held taken with my G-2 converted.

Give Topaz a 30 day download and play with your frightening foto!!! Check out under support; there is an IR Video Webinar there given by Deborah Sandidge photographer/author of Digital Infrareds Photography - Workshop.

Among - Bird in Thicket
Among - Bird in Thicket...

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