Craft may rise to art in the right hands.
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
I think the "Unwatch" command is a work of art.
MW wrote:
This links to what I was posting about:
http://www.kevinshick.com/blog/2013/4/revisiting-hernandez-nmThe first image is the final print we all are familiar with. The second one is a straight unadjusted print from the negative, i.e., SOOC. I would like to see similar comparisons of his other photos, not to mention some from Imogene Cunningham, Weston, etc.
I think it's likely that "SOOC" originated with Kodachrome as a necessity rather than as an ethic.
Thanks very much -- quite interesting!
GW wrote:
I think it's become the age of "what I like"...
I believe the whole quote is "I don't know art, but I know what I like."
photomarvin77 wrote:
I'm almost 80 now and have been involved in photography since I was 15 years old, getting paid for my efforts most of the time. I go back as far as doing weddings with a Speed Graphic, cut film holders and #5 flashbulbs. I made commercial 8X10 contact prints in a printing frame by dodging and burning in areas with the use of cut up tissue paper below the printing frame. After I retired I entered my "fun work" in various juried art show and actually sold my artistic work. Today I went to a large art show that is run by a much respected artists group. I was shocked and truly surprised by the lack of quality of the things that I saw .Everything was over-corrected and photo-- shopped. Nothing was in focus. Color was not corrected, it was distorted. Images of buildings were bent and twisted. I need to ask why! Is this movement to abstract images a genuine part of photography. Is it art? Does it belong in a show with real photos?
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That which is art is a personal gift trapped within the eyes of the beholder which is why there is a certain percentage of widely diverse artisans who enjoy extremely enlarged prints with imagery depicting abstract, distorted subjects or even swirling colors of the unrecognizable ~ often seen hanging upon walls in art galleries or walls of homeowners having a décor sated with ultra modern furnishings...
Ok, should one ask me if I appreciate the aforementioned, my answer would be an absolute "Yes", however; the act of appreciating does not, in any way, represent what "ART" is within photography nor what "ART" means to me.
For me, yes, photography can be art, however; my choices lie within the traditional representations given to objects and or to scenes and if you will look below, you will be able to see a short list of those that are of interest to me..
#1. Rembrandt lighting for portraiture given unto the elderly or the less fortunate having emotions revealed such as those who have struggled demarking life's pains, joys, and or even their religious beliefs.
#2. HDR, if possible.
#3. Emotions displayed without the need for contriving.
#4. Landscapes which can create and pull emotions from those who view.
#5. Parroting works made by Randy. His alias name is (Travesty) upon our UHH forum.. I consider Randy's works to be the best among the best !
Best Regards,
~ Doug ~
Walterdad, you are right; I cannot know what an artist's "intent" was. Photomarvin77, thank you for sparking an interesting discussion that I have helped lead astray. Keep taking and looking at pictures you enjoy and ignoring the ones you don't. As a teacher once quoted to me, " 'Each to his own taste,' said the old lady as she kissed the cow."
photomarvin77 wrote:
Today I went to a large art show that is run by a much respected artists group. I was shocked and truly surprised by the lack of quality of the things that I saw .Everything was over-corrected and photo-- shopped. Nothing was in focus. Color was not corrected, it was distorted. Images of buildings were bent and twisted. I need to ask why! Is this movement to abstract images a genuine part of photography. Is it art? Does it belong in a show with real photos?
Hi, photomarvin,
It looks like your thread is winding down. It has been an interesting and thought-provoking stimulus to (mostly) thoughful discussion, and thanks are due you for its initiation.
Best regards,
Dave in SD
Whether it be straight from the camera or digitally manipulated, if someone thinks enough of an image to hang it on their wall it is art...
I never shot film and am nearly 50 yrs. old. I consider myself a painter that cannot paint, but digital photography has opened up a whole new world to me as far as being creative and expressing myself. I am not a technical photographer but need an image to do what I do and it needs to be taken the way I feel fit for my vison.. I would be a fool if I expected everyone to like all of my images, but I like to thing that everyone could find at least one in my portfolio that they could relate to. I can appreciate everything from a good snapshot to an image that has been totally altered. I have even seen wonderful images taken with an iPhone. So to answer your question, yes, you probably are missing something..
Craft can be measured in how something "looks" or was made.
Art is measured in how it moves us or makes us think.
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