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Oct 15, 2014 13:09:57   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
NeilL wrote:
I'm sorry. I was not aware that you are the all-knowing Master of Photography and that none must ever dare contradict anything you say. Are you trying to get this topic moved to the Attic, where the OP will never find the answer to her request?


No but this is just what you are doing. Creating a snowman and then tearing it down. Now hard to argue a falsehood you put up is it?

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Oct 15, 2014 13:12:00   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
Capture48 wrote:
No but this is just what you are doing. Creating a snowman and then tearing it down. Now hard to argue a falsehood you put up is it?


POST IGNORED DUE TO SOURCE!!

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Oct 15, 2014 13:13:24   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
mwsilvers wrote:
The OP needs to understand the limitations based on what she wants, and will have to make compromises to her stated goals, but just responding with the perfunctory comment "no such thing" with no detailed explanation, is not very helpful.


That is the reason I skip every comment he makes. He never has anything of value to add to a discussion. Just go and look at his past "contributions." He is a "know it all" with little real useful knowledge.

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Oct 15, 2014 13:19:39   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
dsmeltz wrote:
That is the reason I skip every comment he makes. He never has anything of value to add to a discussion. Just go and look at his past "contributions." He is a "know it all" with little real useful knowledge.


There are some people who all they know about photography is, how to be obnoxious. They are pollution.

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Oct 15, 2014 13:20:19   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
NeilL wrote:
There are some people who all they know about photography is, how to be obnoxious. They are pollution.

POST IGNORED DUE TO SOURCE!!

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Oct 15, 2014 13:24:44   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Capture48 wrote:
Sorry to disagree, but when someone asked for a camera good in low light and will have good sound, oh and by the way I can only afford $20. It does them a disservice to recommend all these things that cost money, they already told you they don't have, or don't want to spend. You just lead them down a path they aren't going.


She actually did not mention a budget. In fact, in my first post I specifically asked her what her budget was. For all either of us knows it could be a lot higher than we may think. Secondly, even if her expectations are too high and unrealistic, especially based on a limited budget, it doesn't mean we can't provide some alternative suggestions that may allow her to get acceptably close. Telling her it can't be done does not help her. Telling her what can be done and at what price does help her.

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Oct 15, 2014 13:27:58   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
mwsilvers wrote:
She actually did not mention a budget. In fact, in my first post I specifically asked her what her budget was. For all either of us knows it could be higher than we think. Secondly, even if her expectations are too high and unrealistic, especially based on a limited budget it doesn't mean we can't provide some alternative suggestions that may allow her to get acceptably close.


Good post! It's no use talking to this turkey. He is only trying to prove his ignorance.

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Oct 15, 2014 14:16:03   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
NeilL wrote:
Good post! It's no use talking to this turkey. He is only trying to prove his ignorance.


He has already succeeded beyond his wildest expectation, here as well as in other threads.

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Oct 15, 2014 14:22:03   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
dsmeltz wrote:
He has already succeeded beyond his wildest expectation, here as well as in other threads.


:lol: That's why I have an "Idiots To Ignore" list. (ITI).

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Oct 15, 2014 14:55:12   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
My main concern is that terse comments like his could scare aware newbies who may think they are being prejudged as idiots for having high expectations. I hope she responds so we can continue to help her identify a solution she can afford and that will generally meet her requirements.

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Oct 15, 2014 14:58:53   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
mwsilvers wrote:
My main concern is that terse comments like his could scare aware newbies who may think they are being prejudged as idiots for having high expectations. I hope she responds so we can continue to help her identify a solution she can afford and that will generally meet her requirements.


I hope so, too. There are many knowledgeable people on this site who would love to help her out. If she hangs in there, she will likely get her answer.

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Oct 15, 2014 16:15:22   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
jeanene wrote:
Hi everyone! I am Jeanene. I am in search of a camera that takes good pictures in low light settings. Also, one that takes good videos in low light. My main concern however is getting a good audio sound on my videos. I am helping a band with their website and face book page by taking videos and pictures of their band at their shows. I need a camera at a reasonable price that will work good for what I need. I am by no means a professional and I need something that is easy to work with, but will give the quality I need for my project. Does anyone have any suggestions on what is the best camera for this project. I am open to all suggestions.
Hi everyone! I am Jeanene. I am in search of a cam... (show quote)

For good audio I would always go with a separate recorder and a/several quality microphones. No build-in-mike will give good quality sound - period!

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Oct 15, 2014 16:23:51   #
SSam Loc: Sierra Vista, AZ
 
Jeanene, to widen your search possibilities you might want to 'separate' your photo/video and audio devices. Even though my camera has a mic input (and built-in mic), I frequently use an external Voice Recorder when can be hooked up to a bands mixing board, or it can use an external mic input of its own, or with a remote mic adapter you can eliminate the long (and 'get in the way' cables or it can be hidden on the vocalist and use a good lapel mic.

The most recommended model is a Zoom H-4N. It will pickup less noise when using a long mic cord because it uses XLR mic jack/cabling. I have been very happy with my Edirol by Roland. Roland makes a lot of band 'equipment'. It only has a 1/8" mic input jack. But, I get really good sound to 30 feet of mic cable (not a lot of noise generation sources that would transmit these sounds in my film/recording environment) . My Edirol is so old that you will have to investigate what they are selling now-a-days.

Also, please also record with your on-camera mic so that you can sync the audio in post. It is much easier then trying to look at the singer's expression or players movement while you are aligning the sound with the video. (Don't ask why I know that ... now.) ;-)
Sam

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Oct 16, 2014 01:42:51   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Regarding synchronization of a video with a separate audio track, there is at least one frequent contributor to YouTube that always claps when the video and audio tracks are running to allow his editor to be able to sync the tracks. There is also a story that a famous rock band used a rim shot for the same purpose. There are few things as unnerving as subliminally unsynchronized audio and video tracks.

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Oct 16, 2014 07:24:18   #
jeanene
 
Thank you Sam. Good advice

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