There's always one...how not to treat a fellow photographer
Oct 15, 2014 09:21:50 #
Stories like yours always make me think of a Far Side comic I once saw:
Just to make it interesting
Oct 15, 2014 09:22:21 #
Marc, sorry you managed to attract the jerk in that crowd that day. It sounds like you did nothing at all to attract such crass behavior so you shouldn't let it get you down. Like Lighthouse said, lots of people without health issues use tripods; I like to incorporate HDR and Panorama in my Landscape shots so I use a tripod very frequently.
Anytime you have a fluid group of people come together you will eventually find someone who is too socially inept to really be allowed out in public. Probably the most hurtful thing you can do back to them is ignore them and carry on as if they weren't there. They usually get the hint and go find someone else to lord over.
Hope you got some great pictures in spite of your encounter!
Anytime you have a fluid group of people come together you will eventually find someone who is too socially inept to really be allowed out in public. Probably the most hurtful thing you can do back to them is ignore them and carry on as if they weren't there. They usually get the hint and go find someone else to lord over.
Hope you got some great pictures in spite of your encounter!
Oct 15, 2014 09:22:30 #
To all of you who have been kind enough to reply...you brought tears to my eyes and I thank you all so much. I know everyone here in the UHH Forum is very kind and pleased to share they knowledge and have fun...a giant THANK YOU for all your kind words. It re-enforced my belief that there are many more kind people in the world...than unkind. So a big thanks to you all...sorry I am not around here more but have 4 jobs including my photography...so not a lot of free time...but wanted to express to you this incident in the hope it never happens to any of you.
With sincere thanks to those of you who have answered...and may yet.
Marc :-)
With sincere thanks to those of you who have answered...and may yet.
Marc :-)
Oct 15, 2014 09:23:09 #
Oct 15, 2014 09:26:42 #
I would have said:
"Got a pencil, I want write down your name and the internet URL where you publish your photos."
"Got a pencil, I want write down your name and the internet URL where you publish your photos."
Oct 15, 2014 09:36:45 #
Photography By Marc wrote:
Hi John...I am 63 and my Fiance is 68. I don't do weddings and the like because of my ailment but like doing candids and landscapes and my Fiance is very good at Portraits. I know where are all kinds of people out there...too bad they seem to be in popular places.
Thanks John...makes me feel better with your kind words. Hope you can make it here to Maine sometime if you've not been...a wealth of photo opportunities here.
Regards...
Marc :-)
Thanks John...makes me feel better with your kind words. Hope you can make it here to Maine sometime if you've not been...a wealth of photo opportunities here.
Regards...
Marc :-)
Actually Marc, we spent the early eighties Downeast. I worked as an electrician then and helped to build Seabrook in NH, and Millstone in CT. We lived in Salem NH, and SW Rhode Island. We spent a few weekends on the Maine coastline, and loved the scenery. We also loved South County and Block Island RI. I plan on visiting your area thi summer. I'll PM you when I start my trip out there.
Oct 15, 2014 09:50:02 #
Marc,
That "photographer" clearly has a problem or two or a dozen. Do not make his problems yours. He was probably dealing his with own insecurities and inadequacies. A good response is to wish him a nice day (which he is unlikely capable of enjoying, the poor b**tard) and ignore him.
That "photographer" clearly has a problem or two or a dozen. Do not make his problems yours. He was probably dealing his with own insecurities and inadequacies. A good response is to wish him a nice day (which he is unlikely capable of enjoying, the poor b**tard) and ignore him.
Oct 15, 2014 09:55:03 #
Would love to meet you and show you around. Seabrook is a big project...and still running. They shut Maine Yankee down a few years ago.
Would love to meet you...thanks.
Marc :-)
Would love to meet you...thanks.
Marc :-)
Oct 15, 2014 09:56:24 #
To picdud...I did get some good pics...and will post a couple here soon. Thanks.
M
M
Oct 15, 2014 10:38:33 #
Your narrative has an apologetic tone to it, as if, almost, you blame yourself for the insulting remarks of the disrespectful A-Hole bully. Such types pick up the demeanor of their victims and act accordingly, to victimize same. In effect, you likely made yourself a target in the eyes of the social bully. Old story.
Remedy. Never let the bully get away with his bullying. Always stand up as appropriate to the bully. How you will respond varies and depends on the occasion and conditions. But here are a few tips.
One, look the bully straight in the eye with all your attention. You may need do only this to deflect a weak bully, or even a strong one.
Two, never bow your head when the bully does his bullying. Instead, hold your head up with your body erect. Your straightness itself sends a message to the bully of your inner strength which he cannot touch.
Three, use the shortest response to the bully given the situation. I sometimes say, "Thank you," but in a voice insincere, as a means to inform the bully I discount his remarks. Whatever you say, let your words tell the bully he or she cannot bully you.
Four, never argue with the bully. Dismiss him or her as soon as possible, by turning away as if done with the dialog. The bully may like to get in the last word. Let him or her do so. He or she will go away, superficially satisfied.
Five, practice a manly, public voice that carries to the bully and your surroundings. Fill the room or area with this voice. Your voice manner alone will inform the bully of his or her mistake in picking you to bully. Practice this voice so it works as intended. You may find yourself surprised at your inherent manliness as your voice expresses it.
Six, recognize that each of us may require improvement in what we do. Yet, a bully cares not for offering an adult, friendly, constructive suggestion for our improvement. He or she instead aims to make us appear unworthy of our own existence, and therefore eligible for bullying words or actions.
Seven, note that I use the terms his or her and the like. Bullies come in the form of both genders. For me, standing up to the female bullies has proved the hardest, but after a while I arrived at the conclusion that the bullying mentality is gender neutral. So be prepared for both genders to bully you.
You may see as I have, though, that the females often do their bullying by way of cutting social comment, putting the blame on the other person. But a bully is a bully no matter the gender. Nevertheless, a distinction does exist here: Female bullies back off from facing a strong male who acts like a man, not the little boy who deserves a public scolding.
Seven, accept that the human condition brings us experience onerous to bear, and unjustified and random. But let us keep in mind the observation of Nietzsche: Whatever doesnt kill me, only makes me stronger.
Have a good day.
Remedy. Never let the bully get away with his bullying. Always stand up as appropriate to the bully. How you will respond varies and depends on the occasion and conditions. But here are a few tips.
One, look the bully straight in the eye with all your attention. You may need do only this to deflect a weak bully, or even a strong one.
Two, never bow your head when the bully does his bullying. Instead, hold your head up with your body erect. Your straightness itself sends a message to the bully of your inner strength which he cannot touch.
Three, use the shortest response to the bully given the situation. I sometimes say, "Thank you," but in a voice insincere, as a means to inform the bully I discount his remarks. Whatever you say, let your words tell the bully he or she cannot bully you.
Four, never argue with the bully. Dismiss him or her as soon as possible, by turning away as if done with the dialog. The bully may like to get in the last word. Let him or her do so. He or she will go away, superficially satisfied.
Five, practice a manly, public voice that carries to the bully and your surroundings. Fill the room or area with this voice. Your voice manner alone will inform the bully of his or her mistake in picking you to bully. Practice this voice so it works as intended. You may find yourself surprised at your inherent manliness as your voice expresses it.
Six, recognize that each of us may require improvement in what we do. Yet, a bully cares not for offering an adult, friendly, constructive suggestion for our improvement. He or she instead aims to make us appear unworthy of our own existence, and therefore eligible for bullying words or actions.
Seven, note that I use the terms his or her and the like. Bullies come in the form of both genders. For me, standing up to the female bullies has proved the hardest, but after a while I arrived at the conclusion that the bullying mentality is gender neutral. So be prepared for both genders to bully you.
You may see as I have, though, that the females often do their bullying by way of cutting social comment, putting the blame on the other person. But a bully is a bully no matter the gender. Nevertheless, a distinction does exist here: Female bullies back off from facing a strong male who acts like a man, not the little boy who deserves a public scolding.
Seven, accept that the human condition brings us experience onerous to bear, and unjustified and random. But let us keep in mind the observation of Nietzsche: Whatever doesnt kill me, only makes me stronger.
Have a good day.
Photography By Marc wrote:
Hi...I thought I'd posted this earlier this week..... (show quote)
Oct 15, 2014 10:52:16 #
Oct 15, 2014 10:54:04 #
Photography By Marc wrote:
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....."why are you shooting in the bright sun with a tripod and cable release...it's probably 1/1000 second". I said "for stability". ....what did I do to deserve this? I was just being nice and got lambasted for it...Lesson here...always take the high road...be friendly...and please don't make disparaging comments to anyone. Nobody deserves that....
....."why are you shooting in the bright sun with a tripod and cable release...it's probably 1/1000 second". I said "for stability". ....what did I do to deserve this? I was just being nice and got lambasted for it...Lesson here...always take the high road...be friendly...and please don't make disparaging comments to anyone. Nobody deserves that....
Next time. ask to see his camera and some of his handheld images and reformat his card.
Oct 15, 2014 11:11:30 #
We can only hope that the jerk reads this forum and recognizes himself. Keep shooting and enjoying and don't let clowns like him live rent-free in your head.
Oct 15, 2014 11:17:34 #
axiesdad wrote:
We can only hope that the jerk reads this forum and recognizes himself. Keep shooting and enjoying and don't let clowns like him live rent-free in your head.
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Oct 15, 2014 11:20:25 #
Ditto:
axiesdad wrote:
We can only hope that the jerk reads this forum and recognizes himself. Keep shooting and enjoying and don't let clowns like him live rent-free in your head.
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