Black reflectors
Oct 9, 2014 12:04:45 #
dsmeltz wrote:
A black reflector and a GOBO are VERY different things.
Prove it!
Oct 9, 2014 12:19:59 #
In my experience you shine light through a Gobo. Here's one at B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/558654-REG/Rosco_250782210860_Standard_Steel_Gobo_78221B.html
And here's an informative video (though they use a tree as a gobo): http://phlearn.com/gobos-make-photos-more-interesting
And here's an informative video (though they use a tree as a gobo): http://phlearn.com/gobos-make-photos-more-interesting
Oct 9, 2014 12:29:53 #
sloscheider wrote:
In my experience you shine light through a Gobo. Here's one at B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/558654-REG/Rosco_250782210860_Standard_Steel_Gobo_78221B.html
And here's an informative video (though they use a tree as a gobo): http://phlearn.com/gobos-make-photos-more-interesting
And here's an informative video (though they use a tree as a gobo): http://phlearn.com/gobos-make-photos-more-interesting
The Phlearn video explained exactly what I said it was. GOBO is be definition anything that go between. Since black does not reflect light, rather it absorbs it, a black reflector is oxymoronic.
Oct 9, 2014 12:53:42 #
Capture48 wrote:
The Phlearn video explained exactly what I said it was. GOBO is be definition anything that go between. Since black does not reflect light, rather it absorbs it, a black reflector is oxymoronic.
OK, Since you obviously do not know what you are talking about, I will explain. A black reflector is usually (but not always) part of a kit, like a reflector kit with several different materials to put on the frame. One of those colors can (and often is) black. This is why it is referred to as a reflector, because it is part of a reflector kit. (hope I am not going too fast for you) The black reflector is used to reduce bounced light and is NOT put between the light source and the subject, but elsewhere to reduce bounced light.
See a 5-in-1 kit here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016047-REG/raya_cr_51_32_5_in_1_collapsible_reflector_disc.html
A GOBO is put between the source and the subject to create an effect. Here you can find a sample of a GOBO used to cast an image of roses:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/230696-REG/Rosco_250777630860_Steel_Gobo_77763.html/prm/alsVwDtl
Got it now?
Oct 9, 2014 12:58:39 #
dsmeltz wrote:
OK, Since you obviously do not know what you are ... (show quote)
This is very funny, in your universe black reflects light.... now I see. You read this on the internet so it must be true.....I know it's a tough concept for some to grasp
Oct 9, 2014 13:02:29 #
Capture48 wrote:
This is very funny, in your universe black reflects light.... now I see. You read this on the internet so it must be true.....I know it's a tough concept for some to grasp
There is a difference between what may seem logical to you and a thing that is a term-of-art. A black reflector is a term-of-art. Get over it.
If you had done a simple search on the two items you would have known they were different and could have saved yourself this embarrassment.
I only added the links as you asked for proof.
Oct 9, 2014 13:09:53 #
dsmeltz wrote:
There is a difference between what may seem logical to you and a thing that is a term-of-art. A black reflector is a term-of-art. Get over it.
If you had done a simple search on the two items you would have known they were different and could have saved yourself this embarrassment.
I only added the links as you asked for proof.
If you had done a simple search on the two items you would have known they were different and could have saved yourself this embarrassment.
I only added the links as you asked for proof.
It's true I swear I read it on the internet, they can't put anything there that isn't true!
Oct 9, 2014 13:16:55 #
Capture48 wrote:
It's true I swear I read it on the internet, they can't put anything there that isn't true!
The links I provided showed actual items actually for sale. A GOBO and a Black Reflector are different items. PERIOD.
If you cannot (or will not) get your small mind around that simple fact, there is little hope for you.
I will ignore any further comments in this thread from you, since it is distracting from the OPs question about a black reflector.
Oct 9, 2014 13:52:50 #
dsmeltz wrote:
The links I provided showed actual items actually for sale. A GOBO and a Black Reflector are different items. PERIOD.
If you cannot (or will not) get your small mind around that simple fact, there is little hope for you.
I will ignore any further comments in this thread from you, since it is distracting from the OPs question about a black reflector.
If you cannot (or will not) get your small mind around that simple fact, there is little hope for you.
I will ignore any further comments in this thread from you, since it is distracting from the OPs question about a black reflector.
OK, very good, time to pick up your toys and go home now!! By by then.
Oct 9, 2014 14:01:53 #
Rongnongno wrote:
How many use those?
I have one reflector kit with a black element, but have not had any use for it so far.
GOBOs, if you are interested, I make from aluminum pie pans (if I want to fit them in a gel frame) or from any other material if they will be further from the light source.
Oct 9, 2014 14:08:41 #
Rongnongno wrote:
How many use those?
Look what you started this time!
:-D
GT
Oct 9, 2014 14:12:43 #
Yea, but he is enjoying it!
GTinSoCal wrote:
Look what you started this time!
:-D
GT
:-D
GT
Oct 10, 2014 06:02:24 #
You use a black reflector, or better termed antireflector, to minimize the light falling on a part of the subject and increase contrast. In portraiture, you might have a face illuminated by a softbox on one side of the face, but use a black reflector to make the other side of the face dark. It provides "negative fill" and increases the lighting ratio. IN a studio, you might use a black "flag" to do the same thing. The opposite, a white reflector is used to add illumination to the subject without actually adding a second light, reducing the light ratio.
Oct 10, 2014 06:28:49 #
Rongnongno wrote:
How many use those?
I don't have any reflectors yes, they are high on my list of wants. I do have 2 good umbrellas with black coverings that are for reflector with black on or allow for shooting the strobe though for diffused light. The are good for adding light but I do need some good reflectors too. (The wife things its just GAS syndrome and doesn't understand the need for light modifiers.
Oct 10, 2014 13:07:38 #
They were (pretty much) first brought into use in outdoor portraits by Leon Kennamer--who wrote a book about it--which if you check on eBay for about a year you might be lucky enough to find--I was lucky enough to study with Leon several times
Stan
Stan
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