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Sep 30, 2014 13:01:49   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
missletoe wrote:
I plan on going to the Sierra Nevada next month to photograph the meteor shower and do a 1/2 hour time exposure of the sky with the North star in the center of the frame. There will be a new moon. The place I plan on shooting at has this great looking big dead tree that will of course be in the foreground. My question is..................how long do I need to "paint" this foreground tree with a good flashlight?? I'll be using a 5 cell Maglight that focuses. Do I just shine the flashlight on the tree or do I take the flashlight and slowly shine it up and down the trunk and then do the same for the dead branches???
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This is a smaller example of painting but the idea is the same.

This is a small ornamental windmill in my back yard. I shot this in the dark, of course, and just ran the flash light all around it and the cactus that stands near by.

30 Sec, ISO 100, f/10.


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Sep 30, 2014 13:02:22   #
Allen Hirsch Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Nice pictures!


Thank you, Ka2azman.

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Sep 30, 2014 19:58:49   #
Jerry M
 
You have outlined two distinct projects in the same shot. Both of these can be daunting if you have not done them before. And working in the dark can be frustrating even if you think you are well organized. I suggest you not let that one night be your first time doing these two projects. If you have not painted by light before, do a mock up of the scene you expect to be shooting. Use a tree, a telephone pole or just construct something to paint on a dark night. Get used to the technique and make some of the beginner mistakes in your own back yard first, and see what your pictures look like. I suggest using flashlights with focused beams, diffused beams and even colors if you have that capability. You will surprise yourself with the way they look. Be sure and post the results for us to see. Good Luck.

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Sep 30, 2014 20:12:15   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
missletoe wrote:
I plan on going to the Sierra Nevada next month to photograph the meteor shower and do a 1/2 hour time exposure of the sky with the North star in the center of the frame. There will be a new moon. The place I plan on shooting at has this great looking big dead tree that will of course be in the foreground. My question is..................how long do I need to "paint" this foreground tree with a good flashlight?? I'll be using a 5 cell Maglight that focuses. Do I just shine the flashlight on the tree or do I take the flashlight and slowly shine it up and down the trunk and then do the same for the dead branches???
I plan on going to the Sierra Nevada next month to... (show quote)


I don't think that you want to paint the tree more than a few seconds, but of course I don't know how large the tree is. I think that you want a flash light that is not only powerful but will diffuse the light evenly when set on the diffused setting. I do not think that you want to use spot as my experience is that it is too bright and unless you are really good it will be very uneven. You are painting, keep that in mind you will be using the flash light like a paint brush and will want to paint the tree evenly unless there is a particular feature that you want to highlight or obscure.

I have only limited experience with light painting but those have been my observations. You will be shooting digital so a little trial and error will get you going, if you have a well charged laptop available then you can review some of your work as you go, much better than trying to look at the LCD of your camera.

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Sep 30, 2014 22:17:03   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
This guy set the bar pretty high. There are 7 to 8 of his on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/RK_tBOT8xDc

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Oct 1, 2014 01:21:46   #
GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA
 
dlmorris wrote:
Two comments from my own experiences:
1: it would be better to take a series of shorter exposures, because of noise and heat build-up of the camera, then stack them in a free program called "star trails". You only need to paint the trees in one exposure..
2: I'd use a conventional flashlight, not an LED one. Just my personal preference is that I think the LEDs give an unpleasant white/bluish tint, while the older type of light gives a more pleasant natural effect. My opinion, of course! Experiment plenty at home until you get the idea of it all. But back to point one....short exposures will be better...30 sec. should be plenty long enough. Get one of those remote shutter switches with a timer in it.
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I've never been to that waterfall...
Might have to stop by the next time I head up there :-)

I really like the multiple exposure technique, as long as you software to support layers.
A really nice benefit is that you can paint every single image differently and pick the one(s) you like the most.

A simple way to do multiple exposures is to set you camera on manual, 20-30 sec exposure in continuous shooting mode and lock down the remote trigger.
It will shoot until you release it. You can paint to your heart's content. :-)

Another idea for you, is to paint someone (yourself or someone else) into one of the frames. You can still have the star trails and a shot of yourself there :-)

I'm getting excited for your trip!

GT

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Oct 1, 2014 01:59:31   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
missletoe wrote:

There will be a new moon.
I'll be using a 5 cell Maglight that focuses. Do I just shine the flashlight on the tree or do I take the flashlight and slowly shine it up and down the trunk and then do the same for the dead branches???


M, sorry about the moon, I thought I saw "Full moon", and not new.

I'm including a pic here from Mono Lake with a light painted tufa. My Ambient Light was just as the last rays of sun disappeared into the blue hour, so it's a little different, and not completely pitch dark.
You might try one exposure at blue hr, to get some color in the sky.
The exif is all intact, but the shot was on Bulb for 51 seconds, f8.0, ISO 100 at 24mm with a FF Canon 5dll.
The painting was with a 5 watt, 6 volt LED so it had a lot of power, but the rock was about 50 feet away. The light was actually too powerful and I used it for about 5-10 seconds, but the rock is 30 feet wide and 10 feet tall.

I would not use the mag on a small spot, or you might leave dark holes. I would use it a little softer than that. The trunk should be easy to do, but the farther up branches may need to be burned in a little. You can also use a well placed flash. I've also seen car headlights used VERY effectively.
I would practice on the tree till you have it to your liking, then start your star exposures
Good luck with your shot, they can be so stunning if you get it right! ;-)
SS

Mono Lake light painting
Mono Lake light painting...
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Oct 1, 2014 11:36:11   #
mmeador
 
I would try about 30 seconds to start. Light Painting is about experimentation. I would move your flashlight over all of the branches on the tree. I think a small penlight would be better and you might try different color jells for different effects.
It is a lot of fun and the pictures can be amazing.

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Oct 2, 2014 15:18:24   #
missletoe Loc: Tujunga, CA
 
LPigott wrote:
You might want to consider "Photography: Night Sky" by Jennifer Wu. It's the #1 landscape book on Amazon.


Thank you LPigott, I just ordered the book from Amazon

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Oct 2, 2014 15:25:01   #
missletoe Loc: Tujunga, CA
 
GTinSoCal wrote:
I've never been to that waterfall...
Might have to stop by the next time I head up there :-)

I really like the multiple exposure technique, as long as you software to support layers.
A really nice benefit is that you can paint every single image differently and pick the one(s) you like the most.

A simple way to do multiple exposures is to set you camera on manual, 20-30 sec exposure in continuous shooting mode and lock down the remote trigger.
It will shoot until you release it. You can paint to your heart's content. :-)

Another idea for you, is to paint someone (yourself or someone else) into one of the frames. You can still have the star trails and a shot of yourself there :-)

I'm getting excited for your trip!

GT
I've never been to that waterfall... br Might have... (show quote)


GT, I just ordered "Night Sky" from Amazon as suggested by a UHH member. If you plan on checking out this falls, PM me and I will give you directions. It is un-signed and not many people know about this falls and I want it to remain somewhat of a secret. It has a very large overhang/cave behind it. You can sit behind the falls, it's very cool...great place for a picnic lunch.

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