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Sep 28, 2014 09:10:27   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
sinatraman wrote:
once a citizen files a complaint, a case number is generated and the officer has to make contact per department regulations. i am sure the ofc thought it was bs, but he had to make contact. The ofc cant tell if the photographer is just a photographer, or is he a registered sex offender with a camera. As an ex cop ihave to ask, why do people give cops crap but give the smoke eaters (firemen) a pass? no one complains about how they do there job. Nor do they complain when firemen tell photographers to get back from the fire engines and the fire scene

I have shot fairs in florida and michigan and have never had any problems. of course i dont take photos of kids. The only time the police stopped to talk was because of my DF. Cop was a fellow photographer and he had questions about my camera.
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I have been on both sides of this issue. Too many times I was in charge of a haz-mat recovery. One mistake could take out my whole crew, me and a self proclaimed right to photo idiot. I always, like the fire department would get ride of anyone who added any thing to my responsibilities. If a news photographer a photo for his paper, they should have come equipped with a long lens.

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Sep 28, 2014 09:11:36   #
fjrwillie Loc: MA
 
rpavich wrote:
Was this carnival on public property?


The carnival was at a drive in movie, hence it was on private property

Willie

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Sep 28, 2014 09:17:07   #
fjrwillie Loc: MA
 
joe west wrote:
looked at your web page, one question why the number 439 on every bike shot


I am in a Grand Tour where you have to seek out towns with double letters, called the Double Down Tour. Who ever gets the most towns wins. What do we win...err ahhh bragging rights for about 5 seconds ...lol..

The flag has to be in each photo to prove you were there this year.

Willie

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Sep 28, 2014 09:21:54   #
Dave R. Loc: PNW
 
rando wrote:
I think taking photos of other people's children is not a good idea unless you ask for parent's permission. Ever.

I couldn't agree more. In light of all the terrible things going on in this country I applaud any parent that cares enough to be concerned about anything they perceive (be it real or not) as a threat to their children. You and I appear to be in a minority on this subject but OH WELL.

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Sep 28, 2014 09:28:36   #
alby Loc: very eastern pa.
 
Erv wrote:
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and craft shows. I carry a card with my name on it ,email and home address and phone number on it. I have the card to give folks if they want a picture I have taken of them. :) But you have to know I am very hard headed about my rights as an American.:) But I always win the battle with the police. Or who every comes up to me and tells me I can't take pictures.:) They have to show me their rules for the event and if it says no cameras, I back down. But I always get my money back if I have to leave and it is not posted at the gate that cameras aren't allowed.
I spent to many years in Vietnam to not have ALL my rights as an American to be given to me.
Erv
Sorry for the rant, but folks have to start standing up for their rights!!
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and cra... (show quote)


:-D :-D :-D

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Sep 28, 2014 09:39:37   #
fjrwillie Loc: MA
 
tc46wine wrote:
Check out the following site on STREET PHOTOGRAPHY and legal rights:

http://www.tomcarrollphotography.com/f1051324569


Thank you for the links

Willie

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Sep 28, 2014 09:47:02   #
YoungEsqr Loc: Minnesota
 
There's a difference and a big one in knowing what your rights are verses making someone feeling uncomfortable.
If you are exercising your rights and being "reasonable" about it, don't be afraid or intimidated by a uniform or an overprotective parent, who says you "make them uncomfortable".
When in doubt about the law, check out the rules, first. Finally, there are a lot of police officers that 'interpret' the law incorrectly or don't know the law. Follow their directions though, but get their name and badge number. Check the law and if you are in the right, file a complaint against the officer and location.
I want to add that you should identify yourself but DON'T let anyone take your identification from you and/or camera. Go with them to police headquarters or ask that the local police respond, especially when dealing with local rental cops.

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Sep 28, 2014 09:54:22   #
conniep
 
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured it was a good opportunity to practise some night time techniques using only manual mode. This is thanks to you all for recommending reading Understanding Exposure. I was a A type person before. To keep things simple used a prime 35.

So I taking pictures of the colorful rides and the folks having fun at the carnival. I was politely stopped by the police and was asked what I was doing. Simply told them taking pictures of the event. They said some of the parents had complained about me.

WOW...this happens to other folks. We had a brief discussion. One officer said if I wasn't with my SO, he would have asked to me leave. I told him I would stop taking pictures of people and focus on objects. He seemed to be ok with that. It was not too long after that we did leave anyways.

This got me thinking, no doubt it was a mother that got freaked out. What did that one person think a pedophile or some other malcontent was going to do with the pictures of the their kids in an evil way. As a parent not sure how I would have reacted (my kids are grown up and I don't have to worry about stuff like this). Is this simply something they have seen or read in the news that should be reported and action taken on or do they have valid reasons to react this way.

Just wonderin

Willie
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)

i have had the same problem. was taking photography in college and went to the local zoo to do some shots. was trying to get some great shots of kids and the big cats (no faces or recognizable features) and i noticed one father kept stepping between me and the child. would like to ad here, i am a 62 yr old woman who can barely walk and was sitting with my husband on a bench....sad that the world is paranoid...

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Sep 28, 2014 09:55:00   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured it was a good opportunity to practise some night time techniques using only manual mode. This is thanks to you all for recommending reading Understanding Exposure. I was a A type person before. To keep things simple used a prime 35.

So I taking pictures of the colorful rides and the folks having fun at the carnival. I was politely stopped by the police and was asked what I was doing. Simply told them taking pictures of the event. They said some of the parents had complained about me.

WOW...this happens to other folks. We had a brief discussion. One officer said if I wasn't with my SO, he would have asked to me leave. I told him I would stop taking pictures of people and focus on objects. He seemed to be ok with that. It was not too long after that we did leave anyways.

This got me thinking, no doubt it was a mother that got freaked out. What did that one person think a pedophile or some other malcontent was going to do with the pictures of the their kids in an evil way. As a parent not sure how I would have reacted (my kids are grown up and I don't have to worry about stuff like this). Is this simply something they have seen or read in the news that should be reported and action taken on or do they have valid reasons to react this way.

Just wonderin

Willie
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)


I make a point of NOT shooting people, especially kids, in any public place. If I'm taking pictures of my granddaughter, I might get some of her friends in if she's with them, but that's as far as I go.
I also make sure that I NEVER post pictures of mine or anyone's kids anywhere on the Internet...unless they're Wal-Martians.

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Sep 28, 2014 10:01:15   #
Tom47 Loc: Gettysburg, PA
 
I seems to depend on where are. Any where around play ground, parks, or other areas where children are I consider a No No completely off limits. Buildings, carnavels, fairs, boardwalks ect. are fair game to anyone. I live in the Gettysburg a tourist area and it gets share of some real weirdoes, some do not know that the Civil War is over. Oh well it is what it is today.

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Sep 28, 2014 10:09:10   #
YoungEsqr Loc: Minnesota
 
I took my D7000 to the Mall of America to take pictures of relatives, while on the rides there. If some other child or adult happened to get in my picture, so be it.
No one bothered me and I didn't appear to bother anyone else.
I knew going in what my rights and rules were. I also acted within the law and was reasonable. If I made someone else "uncomfortable", then that was tough. I didn't let them make me "uncomfortable" just because we are post 9/11.

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Sep 28, 2014 10:11:45   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I'd be interested to know if female photographers get the same kind of response. So far I've never been approached about my shooting in public.
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured it was a good opportunity to practise some night time techniques using only manual mode. This is thanks to you all for recommending reading Understanding Exposure. I was a A type person before. To keep things simple used a prime 35.

So I taking pictures of the colorful rides and the folks having fun at the carnival. I was politely stopped by the police and was asked what I was doing. Simply told them taking pictures of the event. They said some of the parents had complained about me.

WOW...this happens to other folks. We had a brief discussion. One officer said if I wasn't with my SO, he would have asked to me leave. I told him I would stop taking pictures of people and focus on objects. He seemed to be ok with that. It was not too long after that we did leave anyways.

This got me thinking, no doubt it was a mother that got freaked out. What did that one person think a pedophile or some other malcontent was going to do with the pictures of the their kids in an evil way. As a parent not sure how I would have reacted (my kids are grown up and I don't have to worry about stuff like this). Is this simply something they have seen or read in the news that should be reported and action taken on or do they have valid reasons to react this way.

Just wonderin

Willie
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)

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Sep 28, 2014 10:17:29   #
dleebrick Loc: Indian Land, South Carolina
 
I was photographing prairie dogs in a populated area of Colorado in the middle of the afternoon, and had the police stop and question me. After I let them review a few photos from my camera, they wished me well. Then I had to wait another 20 minutes for the dogs to start coming back out of their holes.



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Sep 28, 2014 10:19:52   #
YoungEsqr Loc: Minnesota
 
I am sure that there is some profiling going on with photographers, just like with people driving cars. It doesn't make it right, though.
Follow and respect the law is my best advice. Know the law and rules before going somewhere to take your pictures.

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Sep 28, 2014 10:21:22   #
daddybear Loc: Brunswick, NY
 
Erv wrote:
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and craft shows. I carry a card with my name on it ,email and home address and phone number on it. I have the card to give folks if they want a picture I have taken of them. :) But you have to know I am very hard headed about my rights as an American.:) But I always win the battle with the police. Or who every comes up to me and tells me I can't take pictures.:) They have to show me their rules for the event and if it says no cameras, I back down. But I always get my money back if I have to leave and it is not posted at the gate that cameras aren't allowed.
I spent to many years in Vietnam to not have ALL my rights as an American to be given to me.
Sorry for the rant, but folks have to start standing up for their rights!!
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and cra... (show quote)


Not a rant, Irv. Just an attitude you earn after crawling around in red mud, the jungle ,elephant grass and agent orange while trying to keep your a$$ alive.


1st Inf Div
'67-'69

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