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Sep 19, 2014 06:54:46   #
Newsuan Loc: Coatesville
 
FM Racer wrote:
I'm still getting used to a Nikon D7100 and have been getting ambushed by a changing shutter speed in the manual setting.

I came from a d5100 where the manual setting was just that: the SS and aperture remained at whatever I set them to.

However now in the 7100, the SS jumps around and varies tremendously from what I set it to. It happened at the beach in late afternoon last Saturday, it happened again today in the studio with some constant lighting plus a speed light.

How does this happen? Did I do something weird deep in the menu that causes this? I am into the manual but have no clue yet.
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That happened to me before. You inadvertently have it bracketing. Go into your menu and reset bracketing to 0

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Sep 19, 2014 06:55:01   #
Newsuan Loc: Coatesville
 
FM Racer wrote:
I'm still getting used to a Nikon D7100 and have been getting ambushed by a changing shutter speed in the manual setting.

I came from a d5100 where the manual setting was just that: the SS and aperture remained at whatever I set them to.

However now in the 7100, the SS jumps around and varies tremendously from what I set it to. It happened at the beach in late afternoon last Saturday, it happened again today in the studio with some constant lighting plus a speed light.

How does this happen? Did I do something weird deep in the menu that causes this? I am into the manual but have no clue yet.
I'm still getting used to a Nikon D7100 and have b... (show quote)
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That happened to me before. You inadvertently have it bracketing. Go into your menu and reset bracketing to 0

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Sep 19, 2014 06:56:14   #
Newsuan Loc: Coatesville
 
This happened to me before. Your camera is bracketing. Go into your menu and reset bracketing to 0

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Sep 19, 2014 06:58:34   #
Newsuan Loc: Coatesville
 
FM Racer wrote:
I'm still getting used to a Nikon D7100 and have been getting ambushed by a changing shutter speed in the manual setting.

I came from a d5100 where the manual setting was just that: the SS and aperture remained at whatever I set them to.

However now in the 7100, the SS jumps around and varies tremendously from what I set it to. It happened at the beach in late afternoon last Saturday, it happened again today in the studio with some constant lighting plus a speed light.

How does this happen? Did I do something weird deep in the menu that causes this? I am into the manual but have no clue yet.
I'm still getting used to a Nikon D7100 and have b... (show quote)

Your camera is bracketing. Go into menu and reset bracketing to 0. Hope this goes through

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Sep 19, 2014 08:23:58   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
FM Racer wrote:
So now that I've found the bracket button, and understand how it works with the command dial, I'm befuddled as to how I unknowingly turned it on and then apparently unknowingly turned it off. I'm pretty deliberate and don't experiment pushing buttons that I'm not familiar with.

There must be another way but at least I now know that bracketing is not reset along with the menus, and how to check it at the beginning of each session.

Note to anyone else who is clueless about this; p. 133 of the manual.
So now that I've found the bracket button, and und... (show quote)


Lol there are at least 2 ways to set the bracketing.. one is to press the + - button on the top back and one is to press the bkt button under the flash lightning bolt and turn the command dial for the amount of bracket you want and number of shots.. if you do that, the camera will stay in bracket mode until you turn it back to zero.. been there, done that, had have several t-shirts... it only does that in M-A-S and maybe P modes. The 2 button reset sets everything back to zero so that you can start again but it doesn't tell you how or what you did in the first place..

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Sep 19, 2014 08:47:56   #
Flipper2012 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
What kind of lens did you have on I had the same problem different camera but with a sigma lens I had to send it to Sigma to have it re-calibrated to work with my camera Maybe a photo store near you has a docking station for sigma lens and can calibrate it for you

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Sep 19, 2014 09:18:08   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
As you know now, bracketing was on. Keep in mind that most cameras have a menu setting that will correct the exposure even if your camera is set to manual exposure. On my Canon bodies it's called "safety shift". It can be adjusted to affect SS or ISO.

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Sep 19, 2014 11:17:15   #
cjeisch
 
I suspect you may be moving the rear command dial by accident with your thumb while handling the camera. That would change your shutter speed setting. It's easy to do if you have big hands. Try keeping your thumb away from the dial.



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Sep 19, 2014 13:31:07   #
FM Racer Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
"My advice is to read the manual cover to cover with camera in hand."

Just did..........again. Now I'm going to hang it around my neck for instant reference since I'm not as good at memorizing stuff as I used to be. ;-) :roll:

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Sep 19, 2014 14:18:40   #
FM Racer Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
As you know now, bracketing was on. Keep in mind that most cameras have a menu setting that will correct the exposure even if your camera is set to manual exposure. On my Canon bodies it's called "safety shift". It can be adjusted to affect SS or ISO.


The safety shift that I know about and like with Nikon is the ISO Auto sensitivity. It will shift ISO if the SS & A settings are not sufficient for "optimal" exposure. Obviously a great feature for things like sports when you have to capture something in a split second and don't have time to set up (like for a static shot) or get a 2nd chance.

The ISO Auto Sensitivity would have helped if all I had was constant ambient light but I'm guessing it would not have in my case where the constant lights I had were augmented by a remote manually set flash triggered by a simple strobie.

Am I missing something there, would a Pocket Wizard or something more sophisticated provided that communication?

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Sep 19, 2014 15:15:50   #
kitk
 
Not sure but I too went from a D-5100 to a D-7100. The D-7100 ISO will treat any change in the ISO as a minimum setting if the auto ISO is still engaged. It won't switch from the auto function to manual when you set ISO in manual. You must enter the shooting menu and turn the auto ISO function to OFF. until then it uses your setting as a minimum and then continues to change according to its own perverse rules. It may be the case for shutter speed. I haven't tried it yet but will and I'll report back. Go to your shooting menu, I believe that is the right location and try this out and see if it works.

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Sep 19, 2014 18:27:53   #
bettis1 Loc: Texas
 
sueyeisert wrote:
My advice is to read the manual cover to cover with camera in hand.



Read the Manual???? That somehow seems un-American.

Bob

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Sep 19, 2014 23:13:20   #
riverlass Loc: northern California
 
cjeisch wrote:
I suspect you may be moving the rear command dial by accident with your thumb while handling the camera. That would change your shutter speed setting. It's easy to do if you have big hands. Try keeping your thumb away from the dial.


cjeisch...Please don't post a photo on someone elses topic unless you get their permission. This doesn't even have anything to do with the question. You are basically "highjacking" the person's topic and it's not very good forum etiquette. Thank you. :roll:

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Sep 19, 2014 23:26:33   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
FM Racer wrote:
Well bracketing is now off.

But I don't know what I did, other than scroll thru the bracketing/flash menu and set flash sync speed to 250 from 160 and scroll thru the auto bracketing set and reset it to where it was; AE & flash. Oh and I did change the exposure comp setting from zero but then reset it to zero.

But auto bracketing is now off and everything is normally manual. WTF?


That's exactly what AEB is designed to do....

Happy you figured it out.

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Sep 19, 2014 23:32:26   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
cjeisch wrote:
I suspect you may be moving the rear command dial by accident with your thumb while handling the camera. That would change your shutter speed setting. It's easy to do if you have big hands. Try keeping your thumb away from the dial.


And this flower thing has what to do with the question????

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