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Sep 4, 2014 10:38:20   #
schirtz25 Loc: West Virginia
 
have a cannon eos rebel xt. want to learn to take night sky pics. where do I start as far as the settings? thanks

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Sep 4, 2014 10:47:49   #
dlmorris Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
 
On a tripod, normal to wide angle, ISO no more than about 1600, 20-30 sec. Exposure max.

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Sep 4, 2014 10:50:44   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
schirtz25 wrote:
have a cannon eos rebel xt. want to learn to take night sky pics. where do I start as far as the settings? thanks
First thing to do is to post the question in the correct UHH Forum - Astronomical Photography Forum. Also search that forum for tutorials. If that forum isn't showing for you, scroll down to and click on the All Forums section.

PS: Welcome to UHH

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Sep 4, 2014 11:09:59   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Welcome to the force...

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Seriously though - the folks here have lots of good advice and a couple of days of experience and are willing share what they can - don't hesitate to ask detailed questions, in fact, the more details, the more accurate the answer

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Sep 4, 2014 14:17:07   #
dlmorris Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
 
schirtz25 wrote:
have a cannon eos rebel xt. want to learn to take night sky pics. where do I start as far as the settings? thanks


Another important thing..... dark skies! Right now, the Milky Way is visible, which makes a really good image to try. If you can get some foreground (trees, landscape, buildings...), it will make the picture more interesting. Here is an example of something I did earlier this summer. I think I did have a drive that allowed me a bit longer of an exposure, (one minute, maybe) but this is a sample of what you can do with a camera, lens, dark skies, and some trees or something.....



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Sep 4, 2014 17:24:56   #
schirtz25 Loc: West Virginia
 
thanks for the heads up. sorry for posting in the wrong place

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Sep 4, 2014 17:29:26   #
schirtz25 Loc: West Virginia
 
thank you !!! will check all of that out. appreciate it.

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Sep 4, 2014 18:14:55   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
schirtz25 wrote:
have a cannon eos rebel xt. want to learn to take night sky pics. where do I start as far as the settings? thanks

For star points instead of star trails - eg Milky Way shots
The length of time will be determined by the length of your lens.
There is a maximum time you should use to avoid turning stars into elongated dots.
Maximum time is determined by the 600 rule which a lot of people change to the 500 rule to bring in a margin of safety.
500 divided by your focal length will give you the maximum shutter speed.
So if you have a 24mm lens, your shutter speed should be no longer than 500 divided by 24 = 20.8 seconds.
14mm lens - 500/14=35.7 secs
200mm lens = 2.5 seconds

You can shoot shorter times, but not longer.
You will have to adjust your light levels ie aperture and ISO to suit these shutter speeds.
That is why the F/1.4 to F/2.8 lenses are generally used for this sort of work. They give you much more scope with your settings to work with.
And also the better ISO/noise performing cameras really come into their own here as well.
Also lenses with aspherical lens elements to keep coma under control - (coma causes the stars near the outer edges of the frame to go weird twisted triangle sort of shapes).

To be honest - you can practice the shot taking with anything but those factors will get you your better results.

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Sep 4, 2014 18:27:58   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
dlmorris wrote:
On a tripod, normal to wide angle, ISO no more than about 1600, 20-30 sec. Exposure max.


You'd need f1.8 for ISO 1600 to yield suitable exposures. As your f-stops go up you need to increase either time or ISO. Time is addressed well by another post above this one.

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Sep 5, 2014 06:57:41   #
myblog11021 Loc: new york
 
check out this link

http://www.diyphotography.net/take-your-night-sky-photography-to-the-next-level-with-this-helpful-tutorial/

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Sep 5, 2014 11:20:47   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
lighthouse wrote:
For star points instead of star trails - eg Milky Way shots
The length of time will be determined by the length of your lens.
There is a maximum time you should use to avoid turning stars into elongated dots.
Maximum time is determined by the 600 rule which a lot of people change to the 500 rule to bring in a margin of safety.
500 divided by your focal length will give you the maximum shutter speed.
So if you have a 24mm lens, your shutter speed should be no longer than 500 divided by 24 = 20.8 seconds.
14mm lens - 500/14=35.7 secs
200mm lens = 2.5 seconds

You can shoot shorter times, but not longer.
You will have to adjust your light levels ie aperture and ISO to suit these shutter speeds.
That is why the F/1.4 to F/2.8 lenses are generally used for this sort of work. They give you much more scope with your settings to work with.
And also the better ISO/noise performing cameras really come into their own here as well.
Also lenses with aspherical lens elements to keep coma under control - (coma causes the stars near the outer edges of the frame to go weird twisted triangle sort of shapes).

To be honest - you can practice the shot taking with anything but those factors will get you your better results.
For star points instead of star trails - eg Milky ... (show quote)


just a reminder that if you shooting a cropped camera that you also have to divide it by the crop factor ,which in this case would be 1.6 for canon and 1.5 for nikon

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Sep 5, 2014 12:14:28   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
schirtz25 wrote:
thanks for the heads up. sorry for posting in the wrong place


Please use the "Reply Quote" button when you reply to someone or comment on something someone has said. It makes it easier to know who you are referring to when commenting. You might think well gee, I'm commenting to the above person but sometimes by the time you type your comment, 3 other comments have been entered.

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Sep 5, 2014 13:46:34   #
Kuzano
 
Do an internet search on Star Trails Photography. Even if that's not your particular goal, you will find lots of information about night time shooting.

Exposure
Long shutter speeds
Apertures

Another search that will fill in many blanks are the results you will get searching for

Photographing Aurora Borealis or Photographing Northern Lights

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Sep 5, 2014 14:46:53   #
KitsapSteve Loc: Dandridge, TN, US
 
I agree---Star Trails Photography is a great resourse and Goggle Star Photos..Lots of help out there...Look up a Guy named Dave Morrow..outstanding info he provides...

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Sep 5, 2014 16:13:25   #
Lewi
 
Go to a local Planetarium.....they will have some books on the subject. Also
There is a special tripod motor mount that synchronizes the Camera with the Earth's rotation. You have to set the camera and tripod to your Latitude and
Longitude location. There is a magazine called 'astronomy' you can find at Barnes & Noble in their magazine section.
Lewis (maillewi@comcast.net)

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